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> 2. I asked them about eligibility and told them I don't clear CA guidelines. They told me it's first come, first served with an ID showing I am 18+. There are a number of 'special' vaccination sites in the USA which are indeed vaccinating first come, first served people without going through any special qualifications/eligibility check. For instance FEMA was, and still is, running a mass vaccination site in Yakima,…

This was actually fake news, Yakima fema site had the same eligibility as elsewhere in the state https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/washingtoni... A good example of how confusing and micro managed the eligibility charade was.

That may have been the policy which was published but the factual reality is that they were vaccinating very nearly any adult who showed up.

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>Perhaps the problem isn't someone else Yeah the problem is you. Not someone else. >that he literally didn't do anything wrong here. What he did wrong is insert his opinion and possibly pin a comment and edit a title of a topic that has a conflict of interest. That is wrong wrong wrong. Put it this way. In a court of law he'd be thrown out.

Mr. Judge lol. In a court of law you have to proof guild of someone and you can't. You are literally blaming a moderator for doing his job. Lol If you are so hateful against moderation here, you could try something else.

Yeah let's try meeting. I'm going to visit you where we can finish this discussion.

You can guarantee that this will happen.

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#623

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He's probably not deleting or flagging anything because he's aware it will make him look biased. This is a common strategy. Dang picking and choosing only to censor the most insidious things remains an open possibility. Also, what decade long track record? You have a record of posts that were deleted or censored? That would be a track record. But guess what? none exists. That's a fact. All I'm saying is that a confli…

You are making the accusations. In the court of law, it's up to you to prove it and you obviously can't. You're constantly making accusations without any proof.

I didn't make an accusation. You're a liar. All I did is say there's a conflict of interest.

We are going to have to finish this in person Nico.

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Glad it was "taken advantage of", racism has no place here. Disgusting that people think this is ok.

They didn't set up a clinic and stick a "Colored folks only" sign out front. At the county or state level, they looked at the data and identified that Black and Latino populations were not being vaccinated at the same rate as white populations, and also recognized that the pandemic has disproportionately affected those same populations. So they committed resources to establish more clinics in areas with high concentr…

There is no reason whatsoever to even consider race. The justification is often that it’s a proxy for income, but that doesn’t make it any more logical. You can just evaluate it by income, profession, whatever, directly. By accusing white people of doing this, you’re still being completely racist. Say “wealthy people from other zip codes” if you want, but we got rid of segregation for a good reason.

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> I miss the early years. People used stable nyms. Mote, beam and all that.

Your point is well taken, but ephemeral nyms aren't new. I actually like knowing they are out there. You need to evaluate what you read on its own merits. And there's an aspect of rebelling against the logic of accumulation.

They did exist, but a lot of us filtered them out with our newsreaders.

I don’t have unlimited time to read comments so I prioritize ones from the patio11, cperciva, and ChuckMcMs of the board. Not because who they are IRL but because a history of posts I found interesting, informative, etc. makes it more likely the next one will be too.

If you are on a throwaway because you want to talk about being a functional alcoholic without your colleagues knowing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27363003

that’s perfectly reasonable. But if you are on a throwaway because you want to attack the concept of reputation, that’s a pretty negative signal.

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pg believes the Civil War wasn't actually about slavery ( http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html ), so I'm not sure that Sam actually made the place worse .

That's a really disingenuous take from a single line in an essay that is not about the subject. If we could say "The Civil War was about slavery" and be done with the subject, I'm pretty sure so many books, studies, and histories about the subject would not have been made.

I mean, we can say that and be done with the subject. For instance, just look at the seceding states' articles of secession: they quite plainly spell out that they are seceding because of slavery and to join the other slaveholding states.

But there are a whole lot of Americans who wish to believe that the South had a noble cause (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy), and they are more than happy to buy books and watch TV shows explaining what that cause is, so such books and TV shows get written.

The Civil War was just a couple of generations ago, and involved a huge chunk of the country. The various organizations attempting to rehabilitate their legacy (e.g., the Daughters of the Confederacy) are younger still, and active today. It's not actually surprising that there are a large number of Americans who for whatever reason wish to believe that there was a better reason for the Confederacy to do what it did than slavery - the Daughters, for instance, are quite literally descended from Confederate soldiers, so there is a natural desire to believe that they fought for a worthy cause. But the number of people who believe it is hardly evidence that it's true.

What is noteworthy that Paul Graham (who wasn't even born in the US!) is one of those people, and moreover doesn't simply believe (as you're claiming) that there's a legitimate debate about what the Civil War was about - he believes that the possibility that the Civil War was about slavery is a "cartoon version" which can't possibly be true.

And yes, it's a throwaway line in an unrelated talk. But he still said it as if he believed it, and the alternative interpretation - that he doesn't really believe it and said it anyway because he thought it would please his audience - is that he is a man of poor judgment and a loud mouth in things he should judge less and speak less on, which goes to my point that Sam did not "bro up" YC, it was already rotten.

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I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

For people like me who read the linked twitter thread before reading the comments (admittedly guilty of getting outraged before hearing both sides): There is an "unvote" button underneath the headline.

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Literally you’re the top comment, and it’s not a short one, and it expresses personal thoughts. Good job doing less not more.

I certainly didn't intend it to be the top comment; that was entirely by upvotes.

You know what they say about the road to hell and it’s paving material.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#629

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Mr. Judge lol. In a court of law you have to proof guild of someone and you can't. You are literally blaming a moderator for doing his job. Lol If you are so hateful against moderation here, you could try something else.

Yeah let's try meeting. I'm going to visit you where we can finish this discussion. You can guarantee that this will happen.

Sure sure /s

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #626

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That's a really disingenuous take from a single line in an essay that is not about the subject. If we could say "The Civil War was about slavery" and be done with the subject, I'm pretty sure so many books, studies, and histories about the subject would not have been made.

I mean, we can say that and be done with the subject. For instance, just look at the seceding states' articles of secession: they quite plainly spell out that they are seceding because of slavery and to join the other slaveholding states. But there are a whole lot of Americans who wish to believe that the South had a noble cause ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy ), and they are more than h…

I think you are attributing a lot of things to Graham that he didn't say.

He did not say that it was not about slavery. Again, if it was an issue that could be expressed in a single sentence, it would not have inspired the many studies that it has. That is not to deny that the Civil War was about slavery, which I am certainly not. As to what Graham believes, a single sentence means only that. And does not mean he thinks its opposite is true. Not everything is an either/or proposition. Quite often things are more a both/and situation.

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