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Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

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> If $SPY dropped 40% we'd all call it a crash. This isn't that different If $SPY was 40% up since last month, would that be normal? ETH is still currently higher than its value from April 19th. Cryptocurrency market is extremely volatile. This isn't that far from normal.

SPY is up 50% since 2019 (pre covid crash). As someone partially invested in index ETFs, this worries me. Index funds aren't supposed to be nitro, they are supposed to be slow and plodding, and 10% annual is supposed to be huge. I think major indices should be nice, slow, inertial gains from ~6-7% annual, tops. Why? When at any point as an engineer or a scientist have you observed large exponential growth to be susta…

The stock market doesn't behave in an average way on a yearly basis. Some years it goes up 40-50% and some years it goes down 40-50%. http://amarginofsafety.com/2015/01/19/the-market-return-hist...

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

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Bill Gates divorcing is not as big of a story as Bill Gates' connection to Epstein coming out recently. In my eyes he dropped more than the cryptos did

Wait please tell me more on this. This is news

Just google/duckduckgo "Bill Gates Epstein"

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

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They always claimed it was backed 1:1 with the US dollar. Then they paid a fine to the NY AG because it was not backed 1:1, and as part of that they had to produce quarterly reports about how it was backed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/529eb4e6-796... It still isn't backed 1:1 based in their own admission. This isn't about being tight lipped, this is willfully misleading customers.

that's just 3% in cash. the fed requirement for reserves today is literally zero percent. they are just an offshore bank, none of which have insurance and very different reserve requirements. Hold trilions of dollars. Just clickbait articles farming eyeballs.

Dude I think you are kidding yourself. There is something not legit about Tether, or at least it feels that way. And neither Bitfinex or ifinex have done anything to help that through their misleading and sometimes outright lying, about Tether and its reserves.

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

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When the price crashes money disappears.

>When the price crashes money disappears. Thought experiment. I buy 1 BTC and pay you $50k. The current market price is $35k. Where did the $15k go?

What happens if I buy 100 dollars worth of weed and smoke it all. Where did the 100 dollars go?

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

#627

It's funny how everyone here worships YC and YC has invested in multiple crypto companies and yet everyone here hates crypto and everyone involved in crypto. How do you justify that? Is it because you think YC is just clever to cash in on the speculation, the same way Trump is clever to not pay any taxes, but you hate all the little guys that cash in on the speculation?

The members of this board and the people who run YC don’t have much in common in terms of priories.

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

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I have used crypto (LTC, BUSD, XLM, XMR) to pay internet strangers so many times I've lost count. Looks like you just haven't tried it yet.

It's a fad[1]. It won't last. [1]: https://Bitcoin.IsNot.Money

One more bitcoin obituary for the collection.

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

#629

I used to be excited to see crypto currency related threads on HN's front page, bc I would be excited to see the technical discussion about he merits and criticisms of the technology. Nowadays, I am just disappointed when the discourse devolves into politics, cultism (on both sides), and misinformation. Where could I go to see discussions about just the technology?

lobste.rs

Unfortunately lobste.rs is invite-only which is suck because I don't know anyone around me that's use lobste.rs. Oh well.

Re: Crypto crash deepens, stocks slip

#630
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> The Nakamoto Scheme is an automated hybrid of a Ponzi scheme and a pyramid scheme which has, from the perspective of operating a criminal enterprise, the strengths of both and (currently) the weaknesses of neither. https://prestonbyrne.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin_ponzi/

Good article, but it could also be seen as a global poker game, with holders "bluffing" people to buy while they hold, looking for a top to sell at.

I think poker or another form of gambling is a good analogy. In my opinion, the article tries to construct a pretty strained analogy by listing all the myriad ways Bitcoin isn't like a Ponzi scheme or a pyramid scheme - which is what makes it so ingenious as a Ponzi-pyramid-scheme!, apparently.

It clearly does share aspects of Ponzis and pyramids, but, unfortunately, so do plenty of other things, like many companies' stocks. That doesn't necessarily make those companies fraud-schemers, though. That's just what speculation is. You can try to frame all speculation as a pyramid scheme, but I think it's a stretch. I personally dislike gambling and speculation (and finance in general), but there's still a distinction between speculation and scamming.

That said, of course in addition to this, lots of other cryptocurrencies/tokens are full-on fraud schemes. If you count all tokens (which anyone can make and sell in like an hour - many are being created daily), then > 99% of it probably is. In my opinion, all these scam tokens are very similar to malware. (And often are also literal malware, because many scam tokens are implemented as malicious/backdoored smart contracts.)

There are absurd amounts of malware variants created daily. It's easy for a single person to create dozens of malware variants or dozens of scam tokens in a day. If you're going by number of distinct software hashes, it could very well be that > 99% of all software is malware.

I certainly get why people are a tiny bit wary of an ecosystem that's > 99% fraudulent in terms of percentage of distinct assets. > 99% of activity on Tor is also likely illegal or malicious in some way. (There are some studies indicating this.) That doesn't mean I want a government to ban cryptocurrencies or ban Tor, and have police "raid Bitcoin meetups", as this author suggests in the article. Tor, Bitcoin, and especially some other cryptocurrencies have interesting technology to offer. I'd rather there be an attempt to address the externalities in a less crude way than just a blanket ban that makes the technology illegal.

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