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Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#621
Dropbox should have remained lean. From what I heard they had a hiring frenzy, they were dipping their toes into many products. Dropbox paper is “meh”. Other than the core syncing product, they didn’t get anything solid that was top of its class.

Also agree re: anti-competitive behavior from MS and GOOG. The law ought to be simple: you can’t bundle things as free into other things just to fend off competitors.

Goog is taking its ad money and probably the worst offender.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#622

Knew the writing was on the wall for this company the moment I had to dig into a drop down chevron to find the download button for a file shared with me on Dropbox. Making it frustrating to collaborate with paying customers of your platform is a sure sign something is rotten.

I have been a Dropbox customer for several years and every single time I try to download a file from the web I get stumped. It's really a user hostile interface and it's up there on my list of things to replace but not high enough that I've done anything about it.

I actually just made a little app yesterday that converts share urls into direct HTTP download URLs that are usable by cURL, etc. Not sure if this solves your problem:

https://apitman.com/apps/droplink/

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#623
Why does Dropbox need 2800+ employees?

I remember visiting the Dropbox HQ and Twitter HQ in 2017 as these companies were growing like crazy. There were so many people doing... not much? At the time I wondered why these companies needed so many employees. I still wonder.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#624

Dropbox and Evernote, for me are two very similar companies. Startups that innovated on a great user experience and had a flawless execution in the beginning. I was an early adopter of both of them, and they worked well. Dropbox sync between different machines worked like magic. I still remember some of the nightmares my coworkers had with OneDrive in meetings when the files for the presentations were missing because…

I dunno. I feel dropbox has been getting less and less usable as their UI tries to get further away from the very light wrapper around windows explorer(or whatever file explorer your OS of choice uses). I really just wanted it to be a folder that exists on all my computers. That's it. Now when I ask it to open the dropbox folder it stays within it's own application window and attempts to recreate windows explorer, bu…

While I agree their UI is getting more flashy and unusable, that's not all of it. I used to pay for Dropbox Plus. I no longer do because they removed symlink support. Genuinely useful feature, although I imagine difficult to implement and maintain. They lost me as a customer because of this one feature.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#625

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I've always felt this, I've never seen a business actually _do_ this. Why don't businesses just stop employing so many people? Stop expanding? Stop trying to acquire more users? I mean, I know from my economics studies that businesses kind of have to keep competing or they die. It's just really sad.

As a mid-30s engineer, one evening I went to my VP of Engineering and suggested that we could be a lot more profitable if we cut back to half our staffing levels and concentrated on excelling at just our core product. She smiled politely and told me we had much brighter future than that. As a late 40s VP at that same company, we’re about 25x the revenue and a greater ratio than that of free cash flow, employ far more…

Is there any reason why this growth potential still exists for smaller companies? We're in a thread about how large companies are able to undercut smaller competitors.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#626

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It’s likely you have enough money that it isn’t prohibitive to you. I think most people would find $10 a month for file syncing crazy. Why would I pay for that instead of Google Drive? It’s one more company I have to share my data with and hope they don’t lose it/get hacked. At least I can log in once with Google (or OneDrive if you are in the Microsoft ecosystem) and two factor authentication and be done with it. I…

> Why would I pay for that instead of Google Drive? Because of Google's abysmal customer service which is awful to the point that even googlers can't get help if something goes wrong? The point of a cloud storage is that you want your most important files to be backed up somewhere that you trust. I don't trust to store my data with an advertising company.

Google Drive also "works perfectly, across any device/OS and never fails, never breaks, and is extremely fast (insanely fast)."

$120/year for privacy and customer support may be worth it to you but for the vast majority of people it's cost prohibitive.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#627
post #372

Dropbox and Evernote, for me are two very similar companies. Startups that innovated on a great user experience and had a flawless execution in the beginning. I was an early adopter of both of them, and they worked well. Dropbox sync between different machines worked like magic. I still remember some of the nightmares my coworkers had with OneDrive in meetings when the files for the presentations were missing because…

Office 365 with MS Teams seems to have reached feature parity with Dropbox and slack in one nice suite of products that just work together seamlessly. You hit on an important insight, with O365 you can edit your documents right from the cloud and cross platform integration is tight with OneDrive and MS Teams. What does everything think?

Are you sure OneDrive works well? Can you sync PST files? [1] https://www.eejournal.com/article/onedrive-down-the-road-to-...

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#628

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> markdown note apps sync with Google Drive Can you recommend the app please? I migrated away from Evernote when it started to have too much features, and was no longer convenient note taking app. I'm using Apple Notes now, which is more or less good, but it is vendor-locked, and I plan to move away from iPhone to Android.

roamresearch.com works really well for me

Roam is pretty expensive and I've heard it can get slow. Have you tried Notion and if so, how would you compare them?

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#629
post #626

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> Why would I pay for that instead of Google Drive? Because of Google's abysmal customer service which is awful to the point that even googlers can't get help if something goes wrong? The point of a cloud storage is that you want your most important files to be backed up somewhere that you trust. I don't trust to store my data with an advertising company.

Google Drive also "works perfectly, across any device/OS and never fails, never breaks, and is extremely fast (insanely fast)." $120/year for privacy and customer support may be worth it to you but for the vast majority of people it's cost prohibitive.

GDrive has no SmartSync for ‘regular’ users and 3rd party solutions have quirks.

* Insync adds xml suffix to files with xml contents.

* Expandrive borks file editing sometimes (happened twice - it was enough to move to Dropbox)

I still use Google Consumer Storage though, thanks to Google Photos. Can’t get rid of it, nothing better feature, simplicity and maintenance wise.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

#630
I was a pretty early user of dropbox. One of things I used dropbox for was storing some of my college homework assignments.

I estimate that these assignments occupied ~10 megabytes at most.

Dropbox deleted my stored files due to account inactivity. Yes, they sent me an email (to a email I do not actively monitor anymore) saying they would do so.

Storing 2GB worth of files on S3 Glacier for 20 years would have cost dropbox less than 2 dollars.

They lost me as a customer for life, and do not deserve sympathy.

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