Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler • Hacker News Board

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by muttantt » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

"First they came for Alex Jones"

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by bootlooped » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:00 AM UTC

rickreynoldssf wrote: post #384

Unless they had a contingency plan in place Parler is dead. There's no way a site that big could be moved in 7 days. ESPECIALLY if they used the vendor lock-in features of AWS.

Their CEO said:

"There is the possibility Parler will be unavailable on the internet for up to a week as we rebuild from scratch. We prepared for events like this by never relying on amazons proprietary infrastructure and building bare metal products"

So he explicitly says they didn't use the vendor lock-in features, but the "rebuild from scratch" comment sort of contradicts that.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by roenxi » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

ENOTTY wrote: post #605

How is this submission on the front page and not this other submission from just 2 hours ago? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959

HNs algorithm has an anti-controvosy factor in it [0]. I expect having more comments than upvotes means the algorithm handles it harshly.

[0] eg, discussed 2010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781013

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

LimaBearz wrote: post #582

Before this gets too far I’d just like to point out that anyone arguing this is an issue of free speech or “first they came for x, who’s next” is not arguing in good faith.. I’ve noticed a pattern of moving the goal post. The problem here is an insurrection and the loss of 5 American lives. Arguing there is not advantageous, easy, or particularly strong so the goal post moves to free speech leaving what happened at t…

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by throwaway201103 » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

ENOTTY wrote: post #605

How is this submission on the front page and not this other submission from just 2 hours ago? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959

The various "big provider X boots conservative platform/person Y" are all popping on and off the front page fairly quickly. The comments are mostly what you would predict.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by solipsism » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

mgkimsal wrote: post #494

Please let them move to a Ukraine-based host. We can then watch as true patriots discover Hunter Biden's Burisma connections laundering oil and gas money through cloud hosting operations supporting Parler. Parler itself will then be unmasked as a major false flag operation perpetrated by antifa and well-known long-con artists "BLM". True patriots will identify that they've known all along, and were simply trying to i…

Saying shit like Parler itself will then be unmasked as a major false flag operation perpetrated by antifa and well-known long-con artists "BLM"

and then saying

I'm half-joking, half-serious, but I'm not sure which half is which at this point

is the type of shit that needs to be flagged. Leave that kind of trash on Parler.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by Cookingboy » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

Good.

If corporations are people then they absolutely should have the right to exercise whatever free speech they want to.

Nobody is preventing those deplorables to say whatever the hell they want, but also nobody is obliged to provide services and platform to those people to spread those toxic messages.

According to /r/conservative the entire tech industry is ran by leftists, and leftists are stupid, unemployed losers who live in their moms' basements. So it should be easy for them to recreate their entire own tech infrastructure to host whatever nuclear waste dumpster fire app they want, after all it should be very easy for "smart, hardworking real Americans" like them. Hey, capitalism is all about competitions right? Last time I checked there may even be some money involved in the tech industry so I'm actually a little puzzled why they haven't done so already.

If you think I sound like a smug douchebag in this comment that's because it's exactly how I feel from reading these news these past few days.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by oliv__ » Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 5:05 AM UTC

I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this.

I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship?

"First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"