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U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by ardy42 »

pasta wrote: post #615
Slartie wrote: post #388

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Even more annoying is the same thing that they do with email notifications. They seem to keep inventing new "categories" of notifications all the time that I haven't yet opted out of - basically because I seem to be only able to opt out of just that specific category that they just sent me an email about, when I click on the "don't want to receive any more of these mails" link below the message. And every time, they…

This is an indication that user commitment is very low on Facebook. As long as users are actively involved there is no need to send emails. Sending emails is a (bad) trick to make people curious and make them login to your platform again. I think the Facebook app is just 'dead' and Facebook is lucky to have Instagram.

> This is an indication that user commitment is very low on Facebook.

> As long as users are actively involved there is no need to send emails.

IIRC, Facebook sends those messages only when they've detected an account's usage dropping off. When I was a regular user, I never got them; but when I stopped logging in for days or weeks at at time, they got more intense.

They're a deliberately designed mechanism to keep addicts hooked.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by jonwachob91 »

peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

They are starting to kill the attractiveness of instagram too. I get more notifications a day from spam accounts requesting to follow me or send me messages that my use of the app has declined substantially over the last year.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by ardy42 »

qubex wrote: post #466
jeffhuys wrote: post #428

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Then why do you still check it?

I’m in the same boat as the GP: no emails allowed, notifications disabled. I also go back to check in the app about a couple times per week (and I’ve never missed anything of value, either). I guess it’s the residual concession to a very strong and deeply engrained habit, combined with the fact that there are some people I don’t have any other line of communication to/from, so it makes sense to maintain the toehold o…

I managed to get the emails under control (IIRC, there are only about two or three dozen different types you have to individually opt of, and they haven't been aggressive about adding new ones to that list), so I never have to check the app. The only think I want a notifications for are event invites, and that's pretty much what I have.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by ardy42 »

lostlogin wrote: post #423
martin_a wrote: post #404

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I have a seperate facebook@ mail address and I simply never check it. Did so before switching hosters last year and saw that about 8k mails had piled up since 2011. Crazy folks.

I wonder if you can still post to Facebook by email. Having this automatically loop would make me happy. I don’t have an account so can’t check and the instructions for doing it all seem dated.

> I wonder if you can still post to Facebook by email. Having this automatically loop would make me happy.

Nope, and you can't reply to messages either (you used to). It's actually so bad that they don't even show you the message content in the email notifications, to better lure you back to their site.

Whatever engineer who worked to implementing those regressions was being an asshole.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by martin_a »

ardy42 wrote: post #624
lostlogin wrote: post #423

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I wonder if you can still post to Facebook by email. Having this automatically loop would make me happy. I don’t have an account so can’t check and the instructions for doing it all seem dated.

> I wonder if you can still post to Facebook by email. Having this automatically loop would make me happy. Nope, and you can't reply to messages either (you used to). It's actually so bad that they don't even show you the message content in the email notifications, to better lure you back to their site. Whatever engineer who worked to implementing those regressions was being an asshole.

It's the same for LinkedIn and it really sucks.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by cl0ne »

Slartie wrote: post #388
peteretep wrote: post #334

By far the biggest factor that had me stopping checking Facebook, and indeed LinkedIn, is number of utterly fictitious notifications they generate. There was a time a few years back when that red dot made me drop everything to check FB, but these days it’ll be some completely bullshit message they’ve made a notification out of. Feels like they got greedy for my attention and killed the golden goose there. I check it…

Even more annoying is the same thing that they do with email notifications. They seem to keep inventing new "categories" of notifications all the time that I haven't yet opted out of - basically because I seem to be only able to opt out of just that specific category that they just sent me an email about, when I click on the "don't want to receive any more of these mails" link below the message. And every time, they…

I haven't logged in for a long time and they've started sending me text message notifications about friends posting photos.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by rconti »

hesk wrote: post #426
rconti wrote: post #99

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Agreed. And I think this is one reason I love FB and can't stand Twitter. I kept buying into the "follow important people on Twitter" and it's just crap. I don't care what a noted Icelandic volcanologist retweeted about canaries. I don't care what my favorite F1 driver retweeted about english football. I don't care. I don't follow "influencers" because I don't care what they think, but I thought at least getting thin…

You can turn retweets off for the people you follow. I follow maybe 100 people who post regularly but only allow retweets from a handful of them. Since I've done so, the quality of my feed has improved dramatically. Usually, when I follow a new person I leave retweets on initially but turn them off after two or three retweets because I'm only interested in what they say originally. Incidentally, the iOS Twitter clien…

Thanks! I didn't realize that, good advice. Didn't notice the 'likes' .. I mean, I'm sure it's bothered me, I just didn't realize why it was happening, just closed twitter every time i saw too much junk.

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Post by rconti »

Retric wrote: post #239
rconti wrote: post #99

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Agreed. And I think this is one reason I love FB and can't stand Twitter. I kept buying into the "follow important people on Twitter" and it's just crap. I don't care what a noted Icelandic volcanologist retweeted about canaries. I don't care what my favorite F1 driver retweeted about english football. I don't care. I don't follow "influencers" because I don't care what they think, but I thought at least getting thin…

Following interesting people generally has nothing to do with following celebrities. People could post the same stuff on FB, Twitter, or email lists the hard part is finding stuff worth subscribing to. It’s really more about what platform creators use, and Twitter’s lightweight nature means a lot of interesting things end up on it.

TBH, twitter's UI is so atrocious and takes up so much real estate, it's less information-dense than FB, somehow. Neither one is good, though.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by Slartie »

ardy42 wrote: post #621
pasta wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an indication that user commitment is very low on Facebook. As long as users are actively involved there is no need to send emails. Sending emails is a (bad) trick to make people curious and make them login to your platform again. I think the Facebook app is just 'dead' and Facebook is lucky to have Instagram.

> This is an indication that user commitment is very low on Facebook. > As long as users are actively involved there is no need to send emails. IIRC, Facebook sends those messages only when they've detected an account's usage dropping off. When I was a regular user, I never got them; but when I stopped logging in for days or weeks at at time, they got more intense. They're a deliberately designed mechanism to keep ad…

That would match my usage pattern, so I guess you are correct. I'm using Facebook only rarely and am definitely and completely away from it for several days or even weeks between periods of usage.

Re: U.S. users are leaving Facebook by the millions, Edison Research says

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Post by clocksp33d »

seandhi wrote: post #618
thatoneuser wrote: post #608

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Personally it's never seemed like a valuable resource in that regard to me. How do you go about this and how much success do you see?

It’s mostly passive, to be honest. About 20-30 recruiters reach out daily, so I typically tell them that I’m only willing to work remote contracts (if I’m not looking for something full time) with a bill rate of $125 / hour or more. It only takes one out of a hundred to come back with an opportunity that brings in 20-25k per month for six plus months that I can do in addition to my day job to make the effort well wor…

out of curiosity, what work do you do remotely?
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