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It's not a free market in Europe since there is vast amount of planning regulations involved etc. If you want to see free markets in action, look at the electricity prices in Texas, where ironically renewables are also the dominant source. https://www.gridstatus.io/live
Texas is an interesting example because they allowed true unregulated rates for residential consumers. Consumers liked getting lower rates until that winter storm a few years ago had bills for some in the $thousands. Then they didn't like the free market so much.
Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
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Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
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Somehow that’s an often missed aspect of this. Yeah, ditching coal has a wide array of nice side effects. It has killed many, many more than the world’s nuclear accidents.
Why even make it about nuclears vs coal? Both are bad, both are hazards and both are not green energy.
Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
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Why even make it about nuclears vs coal? Both are bad, both are hazards and both are not green energy.
Respectfully, Can you tell me more about it because I genuinely don't know how you think Nuclear energy is bad. It's one of the cleanest forms of energy. Is there any particular reason why you think Nuclear is bad in all honesty as its worth having a discussion here? Why do you feel Nuclear Energy is a hazard? I understand if you feel Chernobyl or any event makes it sound dangerous but rather, Please take a look at t…
Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
#614Irish man here - Over the last few years, we've graduated from providing cheap energy to now importing most of our energy. We've seen huge energy price increases as a result. We're seeing more and more cost-of-living protests, the war now means more will suffer with fuel prices and we're still going ahead with closing down energy suppliers (this is a 2025 article but the point still stands). To anyone praising these…
Even if you ignore the climate impact, fossil fuels pollution causes millions of premature deaths a year, and unlike with global warming, that effect is localized. That alone should be reason to transition off of fossil fuels, especially coal which is the dirtiest.
Of course, maybe the goal here is worth killing 4.5+++ million people per year. There are no perfect solutions; only compromises. Maybe many more will die if we don't act. [The IPCC estimates that an additional 250,000 people per year, between 2030 and 2050, will die from the effects of climate change.](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-cha...) That covers all modes of death, such as famine. For those in the room doing the math, many times more people will die today by making energy more expensive. Activists are asking us to sacrifice millions of lives per year today to save an estimated 250,000 lives per year decades from now.
For this reason, I no longer support making energy more expensive. I support environmental efforts to reduce pollution, but I can no longer justify the high cost of human life associated with taxes on energy. Instead, I really think activists should focus on making energy cheaper. This means working on solutions to make renewable energy and nuclear cheaper per unit of energy than fossil fuels. That's a path to saving lives which I think most people can get on board with.
Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
#615https://beyondfossilfuels.org/europes-coal-exit/ keeps track of coal phase-out commitments. 24 European countries still use coal generators, and 6 have not even planned to phase them out (Serbia, Moldova, Turkey, Poland, Kosovo, Bosnia). Never used coal power: Albania, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Switzerland, Norway Phased out: 2016: Belgium 2020: Sweden, Austria 2021: Portugal 2024: United…
> 2038: Germany Well, sure is good the environmentalists shut down the German nuclear plants!
Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
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I mean, the EIA says "U.S. generation fueled by coal increased by 13% in 2025 to 731 BkWh" The article you linked is mostly about a model of 2026 and 2027 and sure, in the model coal goes away but that's not a fact about coal it's just a model.
Yes with the next sentence explaining why, and how future years are planned to decrease. "Ramping up" means planned to increase. Feel free to provide a reference that supports that it's "ramping up". I, and parent, couldn't find one. This is a super boring factual thing that I was curious about, where opinion has no place or purpose.
No it doesn't. It means increasing.
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Seem to be on their way. Solar power is cheaper than coal now for some projects. In 10 years coal will be entirely obsolete. Though of course phase out will take longer
What projects is it cheaper for? And why will coal be obsolete in 10 years time?
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Moldova's coal plant is in Transnistria, a territory occupied by Russia. There are no phasing out plans because we have no control over it.
You could disconnect from it. That's much easier said than done and probably very complicated by the occupation, but I would guess that disconnecting would reduce coal consumption and greenhouse gas emissions proportionally to power usage.
Re: Ireland shuts last coal plant, becomes 15th coal-free country in Europe (2025)
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> 2038: Germany Well, sure is good the environmentalists shut down the German nuclear plants!
Was it the environmentalists or the corrupt German government wanting to send more money to Russia for their natural gas via nordstream2
Does Russia benefit and probably fund it? Sure.
But DACH environmentalism grew from antinuclear protests, not the other way around, and thus will boycott nuclear even when it goes against their modern stated goals.