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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by epsters »

breppp wrote: post #53
ivraatiems wrote: post #34

I was discussing this with a friend today. It just feels like there's no point to these actions. Not in the sense of "I don't ideologically agree with our decision to do this," but in the sense of, "I do not see how this accomplishes any ideological or practical goal." What are they trying for? Regime change in Iran? No more Iranian nuclear program? There barely was one before. Keeping Israel safe? It's been an open…

The point is preventing another North Korea style nuclear blackmail state. Iran has negotiated like no one will ever attack it, and that was a correct assumption for decades However, due to Iran's overly aggressive use of questionably rational proxies, Hamas has dragged it into a regional conflict where it lost most of its proxies power. After the last war, it also is no longer a threshold state, so the only leverage…

> The point is preventing another North Korea style nuclear blackmail state.

North Korea aspires be to be a Israel-style nuclear blackmail state.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by gslepak »

ozgung wrote: post #599
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor. So your country went into war mode by changing the name of the Department of Defence to Department of War. This was not a cosmetic change. This means peace times are over and you are in war. Your government acts accordingly. Since you are still a democracy find those people who make yo…

An honest discussion about this cannot be had on this site, it's kinda funny how pointless all the comments are here. Yours is the closest anyone is allowed to get and I wonder if yours will stay up.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by reliabilityguy »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

> And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression.

I would argue that funding Axis of Resistance from Hezbollah to Houthis is aggression too. Let’s not pretend that IR minded their own business, and suddenly was under attack.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by tim333 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #594
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

> I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror. The islamic republic of Iran has been slaughtering tens of thousands of peaceful protesters who don't want to live under sharia laws anymore. Hunting wounded in hospitals and executing them. It's obvious there's a movement in Iran that tries to topple the islamist regime. In my city, in the EU, I see cars with iranian flags and I've…

I was going to say it's false equivalence to compare the Russian attack on Ukraine which was peaceful with a newly installed democratic leader and Iran which has an iffy dictatorship slaughtering thousands of unarmed protestors and exporting terrorism all over with aspirations to make that nuclear.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ozgung wrote: post #599
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I don't want to insult you but your president is a populist and a TV personality. He is not a policy maker, he is more like an actor. So your country went into war mode by changing the name of the Department of Defence to Department of War. This was not a cosmetic change. This means peace times are over and you are in war. Your government acts accordingly. Since you are still a democracy find those people who make yo…

> find those people who make your policy decisions

Genuine question: who put Iran in their policy portfolio?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by phendrenad2 »

neves wrote: post #517

Iran has marvelous cities, sim of the greatest humanity archeological treasures. It hurts my heart to see Americans destroying them (and the thousands of lifes).

Isn't Iran also famous for destroying landmarks that don't glorify the official state religion?

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Post by reliabilityguy »

Zealotux wrote: post #352
adverbly wrote: post #341

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

>leads to regime change for all those involved Including for the U.S. and Israel?

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by tim333 »

dfxm12 wrote: post #372
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

I can't believe the winner of the FIFA Peace Prize would do such a thing.

I for one can no longer take the FIFA Peace Prize seriously.
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