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Re: Eat Real Food

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I am positively blown away by the work National Design Studio is doing for the Federal Government.

Agreed. This is one of the worst mobile sites I’ve used in a while. Blown away (in the sense I’m never coming back).

HN will find anything to complain about. Very on brand of you.

Re: Eat Real Food

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post #470

The "Reducing Saturated Fat Below 10% of Energy and Risk of Coronary Heart Disease" research appendix says they purposely excluded any study before 2010. Why? Also they only included randomized-controlled trials that lowered SFA below 10%. Why 10%?

This Saturated Fat below 10% requirement is a direct contradiction of the earlier requirements to include more meat and whole fat dairy. You can't do both.

Re: Eat Real Food

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> the US's per capita consumption of meat That number seemed unreal to me, so I looked it up. I think it represents the total pre-processing weight, not the actual meat meat consumption. From Wikipedia: > As an example of the difference, for 2002, when the FAO figure for US per capita meat consumption was 124.48 kg (274 lb 7 oz), the USDA estimate of US per capita loss-adjusted meat consumption was 62.6 kg (138 lb) P…

Interestingly, ~12% of humans in the US are responsible for ~50% of beef consumption. > The US is the biggest consumer of beef in the world, but, according to new research, it’s actually a small percentage of people who are doing most of the eating. A recent study shows that on any given day, just 12% of people in the US account for half of all beef consumed in the US. > Men and people between the ages of 50 and 65 w…

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Re: Eat Real Food

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Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress

The incentives are wrong. Any good policy for bad incentives is temporary and incidental This policy selectively emphasizes the most difficult to import foods so it also plays into isolationist nativist policies. If you think meat lobbying groups just wanted a new triangle and this isn't going to extend to water, land, energy, and environmental policies along with farm subsidies and even merger&acquisition and liabil…

wrong incentives, good outcomes? is there a world where the long term outcomes are also good, or at least much better than the current ones?

also, hi there! (da from oblong)

Re: Eat Real Food

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post #55

How is it possible that beef, dairy, and chicken are front and center while Lentils, Tofu (or even just soy), Chickpeas, Nutritional Yeast, Broccoli, etc are all left off? Why do they arbitrarily split "protein" and "fruit/veg" given that most/all of the most protein dense foods are vegetables/legumes? Steak is a terrible source of protein (in terms of nutrient density). Immediately pretty suspicious.

Can you back up this claim? “ Steak is a terrible source of protein (in terms of nutrient density)”

In terms of value meat is far more important than vegetables unless I am missing something?

Re: Eat Real Food

#616

Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress

Is it? The change in recommendation is to have less veggies in favor of more meat. From all the recent research and meta studies I've seen it doesn't track.

It's still decent a guidance, but the previous one was as well.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

> "grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those."

They actually make a considerable amount on those last two items, taking advantage of those who want to consume meat more ethically.

(Though, in reality, "grass fed" and "free range" are both misleading terms, and none of the meat on offer is likely to be humane.)

Re: Eat Real Food

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress

Is it? The change in recommendation is to have less veggies in favor of more meat. From all the recent research and meta studies I've seen it doesn't track. It's still decent a guidance, but the previous one was as well.

The first food group listed is literally meat and dairy. The ordering here is purposeful, too, as they admit. One promo graphic includes a block of butter and a carton explicitly labelled "whole milk." This is a very definite downgrade.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

I was wondering why meat and veg were side by side, rather than vegetables being at the base. The new pyramid is still better than the old one, but not completely intellectually honest...

Re: Eat Real Food

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be corrupt, but is at least closer to truth then the last corrupted version. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of progress

Is it? The change in recommendation is to have less veggies in favor of more meat. From all the recent research and meta studies I've seen it doesn't track. It's still decent a guidance, but the previous one was as well.

And that's going to dictate nationwide purchasing policies for things the the 30 million school lunch meals, million prisoners...

This is worth millions of dollars a day and we're sold it as common wisdom from the mom and pop country doctor.

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