Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon • Hacker News Board

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by UltraSane » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

jackling wrote: post #592

tptacek wrote: post #581

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Mostly, "uninjured".

So, we established that there were injuries among people surrounding those with the pagers. Therefore, the parent comment’s claim was false — the explosions could hurt people nearby and weren’t small enough to affect only the combatant. My other points still stand, but it’s strange to me that the argument seems to go (not necessarily from you, but from other commenters above): The explosions were too small to hurt ot…

"we established that there were injuries among people surrounding those with the pagers"

No we haven't. You haven't provided any proof.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by UltraSane » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:04 PM UTC

cess11 wrote: post #557

UltraSane wrote: post #522

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But the hundreds of concert goers who Hamas killed is very true. Remember how they paraded the broken body of that young German woman around like a disgusting hunting trophy?

How did you come up with that tally? Israel has refused to comply with requests from international investigators into the matter, likely because a lot of the casualties were due to IDF actions. I remember the footage of "that young German woman" but it is to me extremely peripheral and did a lot less of an impression than the thousands of images of destroyed baby bodies I've seen that were caused by the IDF. The crim…

Claiming the IDF killed all of these people is a truly despicable lie that destroys your credibility.

On 7 October 2023, the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian nationalist Islamist political organization Hamas, initiated a sudden attack on Israel from the Gaza Strip. As part of the attack, 378 people (344 civilians and 34 security personnel) were killed and many more wounded at the Supernova Sukkot Gathering, an open-air music festival during the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret near kibbutz Re'im. Hamas also took 44 people hostage, and men and women were reportedly subject to sexual and gender-based violence. Some 20 of the attackers were also killed by Israeli security forces in the area of the festival.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_music_festival_massacre

https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-revises-death-toll-from-...

"I remember the footage of "that young German woman" but it is to me extremely peripheral "

Then you are a horrible person.

"thousands of images of destroyed baby bodies"

You are just lying now.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by UltraSane » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:06 PM UTC

cess11 wrote: post #564

raxxorraxor wrote: post #559

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And East Jerusalem and the Gaza strip. I'd also argue that the occupations of Lebanon and Syria are illegal, and that taking control over the Philadelphi corridor was an act of war against Egypt. If you think such crimes of occupation and aggression are "very much needed", then I'll have to consider you morally impaired beyond the ability to take part in a reasoned discussion.

Israel Isn't occupying Lebanon Hezbollah is

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:16 PM UTC

sporkxrocket wrote: post #610

inemesitaffia wrote: post #598

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The Yom Kippur and Six Day war were instigated by Israel?

Yes. Those are downstream from The Balfour Agreement and Nakba.

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Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by justin66 » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:17 PM UTC

sporkxrocket wrote: post #582

raxxorraxor wrote: post #552

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This operation was one of the most targeted military operations known in warfare. International law doesn't hold Hezbollah accountable for example. That is the reality today.

Hezbollah's own actions are significantly more targeted and have resulted in significantly fewer civilian casualties.

> Hezbollah's own actions are significantly more targeted

They literally fire unguided rockets in the general direction of populated areas.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by underdeserver » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:20 PM UTC

sporkxrocket wrote: post #589

underdeserver wrote: post #580

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> If I were Israel, I would have not invaded Gaza During the war Israel was attacked from the territories of Gaza, Lebanon, the west bank, Iraq, Iran, and Yemen. All of these were unprovoked, except maybe Iran. All by parties openly calling for Israel's destruction. Gaza had invaded Israel, killing 1200 and kidnapping 250. What do you think the above attackers would do if Israel showed there was effectively no retali…

Israel has been attacking Palestinians and its neighbors since its inception. They are the aggressors and always have been. > It has achieved the best civilian-combatant death ratio of any urban war in modern history. False.

> Israel has been attacking Palestinians and its neighbors since its inception. They are the aggressors and always have been.

False.

See? I can play that trick too.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by justin66 » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

raxxorraxor wrote: post #587

justin66 wrote: post #567

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> you cannot be more targeted than this operation You've posted this in multiple places in this conversation, and it's just sort of strange. A sniper shooting a uniformed enemy is "targeted." A thousand little bombs that blow up a bunch of people including some civilians is... less targeted.

Because people repeat the wrong narrative of this being a somehow egregious strategy against an organization which exists to eradicate another nation. This is just an easy sanity-check for a validity of a statement. Name an operation that is more targeted.

> Name an operation that is more targeted.

Literally any operation that doesn't involve dispersed high explosives. I can't imagine why you're being so obtuse about it, it discredits anything of worth that might be buried in what you're posting.

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by sporkxrocket » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

underdeserver wrote: post #616

sporkxrocket wrote: post #589

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Israel has been attacking Palestinians and its neighbors since its inception. They are the aggressors and always have been. > It has achieved the best civilian-combatant death ratio of any urban war in modern history. False.

> Israel has been attacking Palestinians and its neighbors since its inception. They are the aggressors and always have been. False. See? I can play that trick too.

I have sources, do you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by sporkxrocket » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:30 PM UTC

justin66 wrote: post #615

sporkxrocket wrote: post #582

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Hezbollah's own actions are significantly more targeted and have resulted in significantly fewer civilian casualties.

> Hezbollah's own actions are significantly more targeted They literally fire unguided rockets in the general direction of populated areas.

They did targeted strikes on military facilities. See for yourself:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46226028

Re: Israel used Palantir technologies in pager attack in Lebanon

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Post by demarq » Thu, Dec 11, 2025, 5:32 PM UTC

jseip wrote: post #191

Why is it inappropriate to be outraged that international humanitarian laws are actively being violated by Israel, in Gaza? Can someone help me understand?

Because in the long book of history, HN wants to look absolutely neutral during this episode.

That’s apparently the good look