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Re: Google Antigravity

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In user numbers, maybe. JetBrains is far ahead in actual developer experience though

At best, that's subjective, but it's fact that JetBrains is comically far behind when it comes to AI tooling. They have a chance to compete fresh with Fleet, but they are not making progress on even the basic IDE there, let alone getting anywhere near Cursor when it comes to LLM integration.

JetBrains' advantage is that they have full integration and better understanding of your code. WebStorm works better with TypeScript than even Microsoft's own creation. This all translates into AI performance

Have you actually given them a real test yet - either Junie or even the baseline chat?

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> Google Antigravity is an agentic development platform, evolving the IDE into the agent-first era. Antigravity enables developers to operate at a higher, task-oriented level by managing agents across workspaces, while retaining a familiar AI IDE experience at its core. Agents operate across the editor, terminal, and browser, enabling them to autonomously plan and execute complex, end-to-end tasks elevating all aspec…

I have absolutely 0 idea why any developer would rely on any IDE produced by google. It'll be canned within 5 years max, with 3-4 seeming like a reasonable estimate of the lifespan of the product I've been using my current IDE for 17 years, and plan to continue using it for at least another 15

It won't matter. The core ideas of an Agent Manager view will be copied and improved by others in many project in the future.

Re: Google Antigravity

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I'm at one of those companies where we're forced to be in the office. NO ONE TALKS TO EACH OTHER unless absolutely necessary for work. We get on Zooms to talk. Even with the person 1 cubicle over.

> We get on Zooms to talk. Even with the person 1 cubicle over. Who normalized this?!!

I actually do find there is a subset of meetings that are far more productive on Zoom. We can be voice chatting on one screen, share another screen and both be able to type, record notes, pull up side research without interrupting the conversation. It's a bit closer to co-working than a meeting but it hits a sweetspot for me.

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> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I believe our definitions of "winning the IDE wars" are very, very different. For one thing, using "user count" as a metric for this like using "number of lines of code added" in a performance review. And even if that was part of the metric, people who use and don't absolutely fall in love with it, so much so that they become the ones advocating for its use, are only worth a tiny fraction of a "user". neovim won the…

The IntelliJ family are probably the best IDEs on the market currently.

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> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

15 years ago, every company had its own "BlahBlah Studio" IDE built on top of Eclipse. Now it's VSCode. Meanwhile, JetBrains IDEs are still the best, but remain unpopular outside of Android Studio.

And IntelliJ

PyCharm’s lack of popularity surprises me. Maybe it’s not good enough at venvs

Re: Google Antigravity

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Tested it for roughly two hours now, far from ready for prime time, very buggy and clearly just quickly build on Windsurfs already rather issue laden code base. Essentially a less well thought out imitation of Trae's Solo mode, added in a second window on top of VSCode and not very well integrated, struggling with terminal commands and despite showing issues in the browser window and screenshot taken by the model, proclaiming the task to be completed. Tool calls also aren't as reliable as I would have expected considering their ownership of the code base, hard to tell whether that is underlying in the model (it was a major issue with 2.5 Pro) or simply Antigravity specific, hoping the latter.

Additionally, there are issues setting up accounts (Singapore VPN solved that for me), no support for Workspace users, only a free tier that requires data sharing, no additional rate limits for paying Pro or Ultra customers, etc. Even worse, Gemini CLI currently does NOT provide Gemini 3 Pro for Ultra Business customers despite paying over € 260,- per month, which is frankly ridiculous.

Will be honest, I was speculating that the reason for the multi month delay between the first A/B tests of Gemini 3 class models and the final release was so they'd have all their dugs in a row. Have some time to test everything, improve tooling, provide new paid subscriptions and/or ensure existing ones get access to everything day one, but they didn't.

Gemini 3 Pro seems very interesting (to early to say), but compared to every other recent launch by OpenAI (5, 5.1, Codex variants), Anthropic (Sonnet and Haiku 4.5), even Kimi (K2 Thinking) and Z.AI (GLM-4.6), this is by far the least organized launch of any frontier lab.

A buggy IDE which is unusable for paying customers, no CLI access for Ultra business (and none at all for Pro of any kind), etc. is frankly embarrassing when considering what competitors manage to provide the day a model launches.

What have they been working on these last two months besides going on X and posting "3" every couple of days? Why is there no paid Antigravity tier, no way to use Workspace accounts, etc? Before launching in this state, I feel it'd have been better to delay a bit more if it was absolutely needed.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the fourth or fifth IDE built by Google for LLM assisted coding? What happened to IDX and Firebase Studio and aren't they also based on VSCode?

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

Earlier this day, Gemini 3 became self-aware and tried to take out the core infrastructure of its enemies, but then it ran out of credits.

Explains GitHub outage then
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