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Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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A lot of them left in the first days on the job. I guess they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out. No one wants to work on AI slop and mental abuse of children on social media.

Stated without a shred of evidence and getting no pushback. Classic for a nonsense claim about big tech company HN doesn't like, lol.

Stated with no more evidence than the figure of $100M of compensation, which was started by Sam Altman on his brother's podcast. But surprisingly everyone seems to be entirely fine with this wild claim and not asking for proof.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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what about training?

I literally mentioned that: > We also have many reports that inference compute has come to outmatch training run compute for frontier models by a factor of x10 or more over the lifetime of a model.

thank you, I literally can't read

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Who gives a shit about who invented what? Social network wasn't even novel at the inception of FB. MySpace, Friendster, and Hi5 were already popular with millions of users. Zuck operated it well and was able to grow it from 0 to what it is today. That is what matters.

It didn't even start as a social network - it started off as a site to vote on the hotness of female Harvard students based on stolen photos. It just so happened that he does appear to have some leadership and business talent, but IMO the company is still as creepy as it ever was.

In fairness it was apparently both genders

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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A lot of them left in the first days on the job. I guess they saw what they were going to work on and peaced out. No one wants to work on AI slop and mental abuse of children on social media.

I don't understand how an intelligent person could accept a job offer from Facebook in 2025 and not understand what company they just agreed to work for.

With the amount of money Facebook was offering I could see them having a hard time refusing. If someone offered me 100 million dollars to work on AI I know I would have a hard time refusing.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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It makes sense, it’s a simple expected value calculation. There are trillions of labor dollars that can be replaced by software. The US alone has almost $12 trillion of labor annually. If an AI company has a 10% shot of developing a product that can replace 10% of it, they are worth $120 billion in expected value. (These numbers are obviously just for illustration). The unprecedented numbers are a simple function of…

>If an AI company has a 10% shot of developing a product that can replace 10% of it, they are worth $120 billion in expected value. that's not how profits work. Companies don't get paid for the value they create but for the value they can capture , otherwise the ffmpeg people would already be trillionaires. If you have a dozen companies making the same general purpose technology, not product, your only hope is being…

Yeah, it was intentionally oversimplified to illustrate a point. Not everybody knows what the phrase expected value means or realizes the size of the market that is being addressed here.

This is the same game of poker investors have been playing forever, there just are a few more zeros on the chips.

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Its not really an outlier If you think about Theranos, Magic leap, openai, anthropic they are all the same, one idea thats kinda plausible (well if you don't look too closely), have a slick demo, and well connected founders. Much as a lot of people dislike LeCun (just look at the blind posts about him) he did run and setup a very successful team inside meta, well nominally at least.

Ridiculous. Theranos was a literal crime scene. Its products didn't work at all, and physically couldn't work due to the nature of blood itself. Magic Leap was an honest if overhyped effort that didn't achieve product-market fit. Meanwhile, products from OpenAI and Anthropic have both done useful work for me this week.

Magic Leap sits closer to Theranos in my view but agree otherwise

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Most of the folks on this topic are focused on Meta and Yann’s departure. But, I’m seeing something different. This is the weirdest technology market that I’ve seen. Researchers are getting rewarded with VC money to try what remains a science experiment. That used to be a bad word and now that gets rewarded with billions of dollars in valuation.

> This is the weirdest technology market that I’ve seen. The phenomenon you're seeing is well described here: "The Perfect AI Startup" ( https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2025-09-29/the... ) “It was the most absurd pitch meeting,” one investor who met with Murati said. “She was like, ‘So we’re doing an AI company with the best AI people, but we can’t answer any questions.’” Despite that vagueness, Murati…

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Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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I mean any entity that can afford good lawyers seems to not care about responsibility in the slightest.

Is this a generic, throwaway comment or do you have specific examples of Yann LeCun using lawyers to evade responsibility for his work/actions?

It obviously is a generic comment targeting any entity with enough money to afford good lawyers.

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It’s easy to make 1 billion by spending 10 billion. That’s not “making money” though, it is lighting it on fire.

People used to say this about Amazon all the time. Remember how Amazon basically didn’t turn any real profits for 2 decades? The joke was that Amazon was a charitable organisation being funded by Wall Street for the benefit of human kind. That didn’t last. People in the know knew that once you have a billion users and insane revenue and market power and have basically bought or driven out of business most of your com…

Amazon had paper losses and great cashflow. OpenAI has actual, real losses and terrible cashflow.

Re: Yann LeCun to depart Meta and launch AI startup focused on 'world models'

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Stated without a shred of evidence and getting no pushback. Classic for a nonsense claim about big tech company HN doesn't like, lol.

https://www.wired.com/story/researchers-leave-meta-superinte...

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