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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by matheusmoreira »

chabska wrote: post #221
adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

I for one want the USA to apply more sanctions, not less. It's debatable whether country-wide sanctions are just or even effective but I still think they should be applying sanctions much more freely than they are now.

The USA applied sanctions to the family members and law practice of a supreme court judge from my country literally yesterday. It's said this cut them off from hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.

It really kills their champagne socialism nonsense. They destroy my country and then enjoy foreign developed nations on taxpayer dime. You have no idea how good it feels to see these "gods" get what they deserve. I'll be forever thankful to Trump for it.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

figmert wrote: post #602
1234letshaveatw wrote: post #600

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No intention huh? Maybe you think the underground bunkers are for funsies. That is the silliest thing I have heard today. Congratulations.

Ignore the rest of what wrote, and preemptively call facts silly. I'm sure you're more familiar with the matter than IAEA. Heck, even Tulsi Gabbard, the US intelligence director initially said they were not building nuclear weapons, until she changed her tune after Trump probably barked at her.

interesting that you reference the IAEA- do you know if they estimate to what extent Iran enriches their uranium stockpile?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by catlover76 »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #600
figmert wrote: post #593

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Every international body had checked, and confirmed that Iran had no intention of building nuclear weapons. Even to this day. Even after what Israel and US did. Netanyahu has been saying Iran in minutes away from building nuclear weapons since early 2010s. Never mind those facts. Let's say they are building weapons. What gives the US the right to build enough nuclear weapons that they could destroy the world multiple…

No intention huh? Maybe you think the underground bunkers are for funsies. That is the silliest thing I have heard today. Congratulations.

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Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by somenameforme »

simianparrot wrote: post #599
bichiliad wrote: post #583

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This is extremely reductive. Just as OP doesn’t support Russia in its war against Ukraine, and just as many US citizens don’t support America’s actions abroad, there aren’t any countries that teach their kids to chant “death to America” for the fun of it. Not to mention the fact that there are options that aren’t “economic oppression” or “war.”

Why would "for the fun of it" be a prerequisite for it to be bad..? If someone shouts "death to " from across the street, I take it _very_ seriously. I fully understand the history between Iran and the US, but you you can't have suicidal empathy with an enemy state that trains its people to want you dead.

If you visit Iran (or pretty much anywhere) as an American you'll have zero issues with the people. Here [1] is a thread of various people visiting Iran, and it's 100% typical. The average Iranian has no problems with an American than anybody else - they have a problem with the American government. And the two are obviously two extremely different things.

The one piece of advice that shouldn't need to be said, but does, is that when traveling to Rome you need to do as the Romans do. You probably would have problems if e.g. you bring a homosexual partner along and make that relationship apparent in public, are a woman who tries go without a hijab, etc. Be respectful of the culture, and people will be respectful of you - regardless of where you happen to come from.

[1] - https://www.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/111xz3l/comment/j8p...

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by figmert »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #612
figmert wrote: post #602

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignore the rest of what wrote, and preemptively call facts silly. I'm sure you're more familiar with the matter than IAEA. Heck, even Tulsi Gabbard, the US intelligence director initially said they were not building nuclear weapons, until she changed her tune after Trump probably barked at her.

interesting that you reference the IAEA- do you know if they estimate to what extent Iran enriches their uranium stockpile?

So they can't build nuclear energy to power their infrastructure?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by adastra22 »

hrbsoscbfo wrote: post #479
adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

I worked at a place where we tried hiring an Iranian. Ignorant of the law, some of us were surprised when the legal department pulled the plug on the whole process. I was kind of surprised by the whole thing because he was currently employed at another company. We went so far in the process that he quit his other job and we had him in the office for his first day of work, had a big lunch with him and everything. We f…

You had him in the office? So he was in the US on a legal permit? Then IANAL but I think your legal dept fucked up. I know many Iranians working here in Silicon Valley. They have refugee permits and are 100% legal workers. Unless you are in defense tech or something which has stricter employment laws, your company did overreact.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by code_for_monkey »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #578
tuveson wrote: post #452

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> But even in the US, no one I've ever had the option to vote for (and who had even a remote chance of winning) would ever consider lifting these sanctions. So I am similarly powerless to change this situation. Not saying Obama’s foreign policy was perfect, but he did do the Iran nuclear deal which lifted some sanctions, and started the process of normalizing relations with Cuba. Like so many other things, these were…

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Iran should be allowed to have a nuke

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by code_for_monkey »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #600
figmert wrote: post #593

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every international body had checked, and confirmed that Iran had no intention of building nuclear weapons. Even to this day. Even after what Israel and US did. Netanyahu has been saying Iran in minutes away from building nuclear weapons since early 2010s. Never mind those facts. Let's say they are building weapons. What gives the US the right to build enough nuclear weapons that they could destroy the world multiple…

No intention huh? Maybe you think the underground bunkers are for funsies. That is the silliest thing I have heard today. Congratulations.

who are we going to believe, international nuclear warhead investigators or your gut impulse?

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Post by code_for_monkey »

soulofmischief wrote: post #468
spwa4 wrote: post #398

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Uh. The US is currently increasingly subject to an theocratic autocracy, as Trump and his cabal of Christian nationalists terrorize our country. By your logic, we are not a part of the modern world.

the US is currently ruled by a known pedophile rapist and still people feel comfortable looking down at other places. We shouldnt be part of the modern world!

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by adastra22 »

rimprobablyly wrote: post #307
adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

Could your comment to the op be classed as "transacting with a sanctioned individual?"

No, there is no commercial transaction here. You might say “neither is GitHub benefiting from a non-paying Iranian customer” but it is at least not 100% clear on the latter case. GitHub, as a business, benefits from non-paying users & their data.
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