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Re: A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in

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Post by blackqueeriroh » Wed, Sep 03, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #319

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #252

I have a question for folks. This young man was 17. Most folks in this discussions have said that because he was 17 it’s different as opposed to, say, an adult. What materially changes when someone goes from 17 to 18? Why would one be okay but not the other?

The legal definition of an adulthood doesn't match the biological one. Initially it mostly is a cut off to know if you can be enrolled by force in the war machine or not

Studies show that biological “adulthood” isn’t static, nor is it consistent.

Re: A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in

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Post by blackqueeriroh » Wed, Sep 03, 2025, 2:29 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #309

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #252

I have a question for folks. This young man was 17. Most folks in this discussions have said that because he was 17 it’s different as opposed to, say, an adult. What materially changes when someone goes from 17 to 18? Why would one be okay but not the other?

You have to draw the line somewhere, more or less.

No, you’re missing my point. It’s not worse because he’s 17. It’s all bad. The same bad.

Re: A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in

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Post by blackqueeriroh » Wed, Sep 03, 2025, 2:30 PM UTC

notachatbot123 wrote: post #602

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are absolutely reasons for LLMs to be designed as human-like chat companions, starting with the fact that they’re trained on human speech and behavior, and what they do is statistically predict the most likely next token, which means they will statistically sound and act much like a human.

That's not a requirement for LLMs. Training can be done differently.

Please, tell me how you train large language models on something other than language.

Re: A teen was suicidal. ChatGPT was the friend he confided in

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Post by blackqueeriroh » Wed, Sep 03, 2025, 2:31 PM UTC

drw85 wrote: post #272

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But understand that things like Facebook not operating doesn’t actually make the world any safer. In fact, it makes it less safe, because the same behavior is happening on the open internet and nobody is moderating it.

I don't think this is true anymore. Facebook have gone so far down the 'algorithmic control' rabbit hole, it would most definitely be better if they weren't operating anymore. They destroy people that don't question things with their algorithm driven bubble of misinformation.

And you think the people who don’t question things would suddenly have more accurate information?