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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

neogodless wrote: post #495
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #491

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> The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device Show me the tiny Android flagship from the past 5 years that didn't sell well. (You can't, because there wasn't one.)

https://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-10-review-3334... According to this article > The ASUS Zenfone 10 is a compact flagship Android phone from ASUS. Sporting a little 5.9-inch display Though you have to argue it's not tiny . (Don't think it sold all that well, though, at least not mainstream.)

It's not tiny, and it's also ASUS. They are relatively niche to begin with.

If we're counting 5.9" we might as well count the Galaxy S series at 6.1". (My choice of phone, incidentally.)

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Post by _lvbh »

rekoil wrote: post #417
easton wrote: post #406

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Getting the battery replaced fixed mine (and seemed to mildly improve system performance, although maybe that’s placebo), might be worth a shot if you like the form factor.

Depending on how degraded the original battery was it isn't necessarily placebo. If iOS detects a severely degraded battery it will clock down the CPU slightly to cope with it, sacrificing a little performance to keep the device stable. With 3rd party batteries it can't do this, so it doesn't (I think, will admit I'm not entirely sure exactly how iOS deals with 3rd party batteries it can't determine the status of), a…

> If iOS detects a severely degraded battery it will clock down the CPU slightly

I currently have this problem (iPhone 11). It's not slight at all. Keyboard inputs sometimes has up to a full 1000ms latency and that's with autocorrect, suggestions, and spellcheck turned off. Scrolling in most apps are jumpy rather than smooth. When this phone dies, I don't know what I'll get. Hopefully a good linux phone exists by then.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Post by woodpanel »

rickdeckard wrote: post #422

The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

> QWERTY paradox

Similar to the „ARTE effect“: When French TV audiences where polled, frequently around 10% responded, that they were watching Arte (an artsy government funded intelligentsia TV channel) on a daily basis.

yet the ratings rarely surpass 2%

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Post by theshackleford »

nunez wrote: post #149
wyre wrote: post #116

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The general population wants larger phones because they are addicted to their screens.

Yes, and people are using their phones for what they previously used TVs, laptops, music players and other dedicated devices for. It's a bit of a cycle. There's also the accessibility factor. Many people become farsighted later in life. It's much easier to see things on a big phone, especially with increased zoom. (I see this all of the time when I fly.)

> There's also the accessibility factor. Many people become farsighted later in life. It's much easier to see things on a big phone, especially with increased zoom. (I see this all of the time when I fly.)

Or for those of us with higher end myopia whose lenses effectively “shrink” everything they see. I’m -6.75 in each eye and my glasses make my everything seem significantly smaller than it is.

Sometimes I look at my phone or monitor without my glasses and am momentarily shocked at how large they seem and then saddened when I put them back on.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

rickdeckard wrote: post #422

The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

I think there could be a market for a small reliable Android phone. The main issue is that it'd take years to build up a model's reputation and it'd have to be reasonably low price.

As it stands the kind of people who want a smaller phone almost by definition need to be a bit savvier than the market in general to know such a thing still exists and along with that will have greater skepticism towards Android phones having any kind of post market support.

It'd basically have to come from Samsung to hit the all the price/quality/trust requirements. Feel like they've already got a lot of the pieces there with their corporate targeted XCover range just shrink them down a bit.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone (2022)

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Post by Knork-and-Fife »

neogodless wrote: post #495
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #491

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> The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device Show me the tiny Android flagship from the past 5 years that didn't sell well. (You can't, because there wasn't one.)

https://www.androidauthority.com/asus-zenfone-10-review-3334... According to this article > The ASUS Zenfone 10 is a compact flagship Android phone from ASUS. Sporting a little 5.9-inch display Though you have to argue it's not tiny . (Don't think it sold all that well, though, at least not mainstream.)

i was waiting to buy one until they fulfilled their promise of allowing unlocking the bootloader, which they never did...

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Post by kasabali »

Tade0 wrote: post #381
GuB-42 wrote: post #358

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For me, it would be the Samsung Galaxy S5 but with modern hardware. In addition to being small, with SD card and 3.5mm jack, it is water resistant and has a removable battery. It is also one of the most robust non-hardened phones. It has an IR blaster too if it matters to you. It was a time when Samsung was known for its gimmicks, the one for the Galaxy S5 is "Air View", where it recognizes your finger hovers over th…

I've held on to my S8 as long as possible, because even if the battery wasn't removable any more, it lasted the lifetime of the device, despite heating up considerably during the summer. My current Xperia 5 maintains battery temperature around 10°C above ambient during fast charging and since it easily lasts the whole day in the 30-80% charge regime, I believe it will outlast other components.

S8 was the first flagship released after imploding Note 7s, so it's possible they may've overshot in cell quality.

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Post by subhro »

rickdeckard wrote: post #422

The hard reality is that there is no PAYING market for such a device, because when it comes to the point-of-sale, most people still choose the normal-size device with better screen/battery/camera. This is equivalent to something I called the "QWERTY paradox" more than a decade ago: Back when the Smartphone market exploded, people disliked typing on a touchscreen and repeatedly stated that they want a device with a ph…

> But whenever someone answered the call and built a Smartphone with QWERTY keyboard, the product failed commercially

Blackberries? Granted, they failed but for a completely different reason.

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

PaulHoule wrote: post #582
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #579

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The Ford Maverick starts at like $2k more than the Slate truck.

... and that's very little compared to most alternatives on the market.

Yeah, mainly I mean I don't get the hype over it. At $28k with no EV tax credit it makes no sense to me. Just get a Maverick, it's actually got features.

My original point was that I expect a big difference in people's stated vs observed preference on this one.

Maybe if it was priced like a Nissan Versa.

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Post by microtonal »

scarface_74 wrote: post #549
microtonal wrote: post #272

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What Linux computer can you buy with the battery life, quietness, lack of heat and speed of a modern ARM based Mac? Battery life, probably none. For the rest it's pretty ok now - I recently got a ThinkPad T14. Performance-wise it's in M1/M2 territory and yes the fans can spin up, but they are not very loud. I have used MacBooks since 2007, but I have started using the ThinkPad more and more. Why? I put in 64GiB RAM a…

And no mainstream apps…

Well... 1Password, Da Vinci Resolve, Cursor, Zoom, Dropbox, Bitwig, Master PDF, Mathematica, Spotify, Steam, etc. The times are changing.
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