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That's must be annoying to say the least. In India drivers require an OTP to start a ride. The OTP is the same for a user across rides, so I have mine memorised which is nifty. No fiddling with the phone during boarding. On security: exploiting this would require the driver to stay in my vicinity the next time I book a ride, and also get the ride assigned to them. In a high population density area, it's rare - I've n…
An OTP that's reused?
Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway
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#612Earlier quoted context omitted.
We probably went wrong when we decided to maximize money versus maximizing happiness. We badly need to move beyond GDP and to at least IHDI, if not something even better.
I can't buy food or pay my mortgage with happiness.
Beauty matters.
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#613Earlier quoted context omitted.
We probably went wrong when we decided to maximize money versus maximizing happiness. We badly need to move beyond GDP and to at least IHDI, if not something even better.
Whatever sensible measure you can imagine, it’s most likely very strongly correlated with gdp
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It solves the problem for 99.99% of the time. Drivers are not going to memorize your OTP; and it is unlikely that an OTP list will be leaked/used anytime soon.
Maybe, but there's OT in OTP. So if it's not changing then it's not OTP, just P.
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Is this some sort of a scam? The driver cannot even mark the ride as completed without being in the area right? So they have to drive it anyway. I can’t imagine they would be on the platform for long if this happened on a regular basis. I would say it’s probably an accident but how could this behavior be accidental? Someone might accidentally say that they picked you up, but they couldn’t accidentally then drive an e…
Has anybody tried "driving" for one of these companies using GPS spoofing? You could fake the location of your phone. I suppose it'd only work a few times before the number of reports gets you banned, but I wonder whether on a laragr enough (and automated) scale it would be profitable for scammers
I tried to report a security incident to Uber, but not sure what happened. It would likely be easier to complain today, as now all taxis (which Uber technically is in Norway) need to be part of a Taxi dispatch central
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Same here. To alter-quote The Simpsons, "My eyes! The classes do nothing!" Shortly after pandemic, I noticed "corridor fees" on vastly different routes which, mysteriously, bumped-up the price by the same percentage across each route--but only after the ride had completed. The price I was quoted was not remotely close to the price I was charged. I did the customer service messaging thing. The first time, they removed…
As much as I love to hate on Uber and Lyft, tacked on fees like this are often due to state / federal government, and the rideshare service hands are tied. Uber tags on a very long list of random fees when I Uber out of SFO, but when I investigated them, they were all random taxes from the city / state. If they want to jack up the prices they can just increase them - they don't need to add random fees.
Sure the state and Uber can add whatever fee they like. But not after I accept the ride.
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#617As a Waymo-booster on HN for a while now, here's my latest anecdote. I tried to figure out how to take Waymo to LAX even though it's not actually in their territory yet just because I value the experience so much. I was borderline going to take it within walking distance (about half a mile), but got lazy at the last minute. I took Lyft instead, and, as if the universe cursed my laziness, I booked a "comfort" car for…
Charges for goods not delivered as agreed falls under the protection of the Fair Credit Billing Act. If you made a good faith attempt to resolve with the merchant (which you did) you should use your credit card to charge back the amount (some let you request a partial charge back, but if not you can request a full one and explain in the extra info that you want a partial one). This might not seem worth it for $3, but…
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Exactly, I will pay a premium for not having to deal with a human being in the car with me. It's a dice roll: you could get a very extroverted driver who won't leave you alone, or someone who smells bad, or someone rude, or a distracted driver... Just let me sit in peace, alone with a robot.
Isolationism progresses.
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Is this some sort of a scam? The driver cannot even mark the ride as completed without being in the area right? So they have to drive it anyway. I can’t imagine they would be on the platform for long if this happened on a regular basis. I would say it’s probably an accident but how could this behavior be accidental? Someone might accidentally say that they picked you up, but they couldn’t accidentally then drive an e…
Has anybody tried "driving" for one of these companies using GPS spoofing? You could fake the location of your phone. I suppose it'd only work a few times before the number of reports gets you banned, but I wonder whether on a laragr enough (and automated) scale it would be profitable for scammers
I've gotten a refund on food before because my driver picked up my food and then went spend a half hour in a gas station before returning to their route even though my home was 2 minutes away.
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#620Replacing 100% of cars with self-driving taxis are definitely the future. In this context: Corporate owned for-profit self-driving cars are the mark of a dystopian. Publicly-owned or non-profit self-driving cars are the mark of a utopia.
Obviously the opposite. Competition keeps prices low and quality high. "Publicly-owned" would be expensive and low quality, and would make the people running the operation filthy rich. Non-profit would mean that whoever is running it would increase their salaries until there's no profit. There would be no reason to lower prices or increase quality, if competition is non-existent.
By publicly owned, I mean “owned by the public”, not “owned by a publicly traded company” (which is, ironically, private property). You’re thinking the latter, which counts as corporate-owned.
I used a bad choice of words. In most of the world “public owned” means the former, whereas in the US it means the latter. The exact opposite, ironically.