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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Ukraine is just the beginning. The peace deal being negotiated includes NATO withdrawing to 1990 borders.

"Withdrawing" to 1990 borders? You mean expelling the states that joined after 1990? I'm not sure that would go over well with the Baltics, Romania, Sweden and Finland. Withdrawal from NATO is voluntary and cannot be compelled.

lol, those agreements are just pieces of paper.

Deals don't matter when the counterparty wont adhere to them and there is no third party forcing them to

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Why do people think it is so far fetched that Trump is a Russian asset given his behavior in his last term (trying to blackmail Zelenskyy on an official call) and his credit problems in the past (no banks would lend to him given his failure to pay back any loan, with the exception of an obscure channel through a German bank)? Perhaps Trump is just in debt to Putin and this is payback, he was intentionally crass to Ze…

They (the GOP, Democrats, national and intl intelligence agencies) all have blackmail on each other. It hasn't made sense to think about these issues purely on national lines for a long time - try thinking in terms of a large international mafia with various families and factions; held together by unspeakable secrets. Sarah Kendzior and Whitney Webb produce great writing about this, thoroughly sourced. For example, h…

Lmao, this is the dumbest conspiracy theory I’ve read in a while. National politicians are afraid of being murdered by the Mafia on Trump’s orders? Good grief.

Even if you put the absurdity of that kind of thing aside, look at the actual facts. Trump burns through advisors and cabinet members on a nearly weekly basis, and many of those have gone on to become scathing critics of his. He has tons of vocal enemies from within the Republican Party, who are quickly sidelined or ousted but never harmed.

The reason Republicans have all fallen in line behind Trump is because they ultimately want nothing more than power and wealth. Once it became clear that Trump has tapped into an indestructible movement of American populist stupidity that isn’t going anywhere, anyone who wanted to have a job in Republican politics quickly figured out that there was only one way to do so: join the never ending Trump pep-rally.

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Trump no doubt will say this is a negotiating ploy to get Zelensky to make concessions but you have to wonder why all the concessions have to be made by the victim and not the aggressor. Why not ask Putin to pause killing Ukranians or return some of the kidnapped children or some token of goodwill?

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Ukraine's parliament overwhelmingly supported the EU-UA agreement. It had the support of the populace. Yanukovych was going to be replaced at the next election because of it, and his violent suppression of the protests only sped that up. There was no need for western involvement to make that happen, and your belief that there was is an evidence-free conspiracy theory. https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/us-launched-euromai…

It wasn't then nor now a legitimate parliament. Please refer to the 2014 Victoria Nuland phone leaks to see for yourself how the United States chooses who is a member of the Ukrainian government.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

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The USA is not in violation of that. All of points 1-6 have been complied with. Russia is in clear violation of it, but it never promised US military intervention. All it promises is we'd go to the Security Council about it. The memorandum didn't really anticipate one of the signatories with a UN veto being the aggressor.

The UK, France and China also signed that same agreement.

France and China signed separate, individual agreements.

The UK and France have clearly followed (and exceeded, via direct military aid it does not require) the requirements of the memorandum.

I can't find the text of China's agreement.

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One explanation would be an agreement with Putin softening support for Iran in exchange for US softening support for Ukraine.

Lol, Russia has long sold Iran whatever it wants in exchange for drones.

Right, and if US made a deal with Russia to cease their support for Iran, then they become much more vulnerable to an attack by Israel and US.

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Comments are disappointing for hacker news standard. This pause was predictable (I predicted it in Nov 2024). It's negotiation leverage to steer toward an immediate resolution of the war. An immediate resolution of the war cuts losses: Ukraine loses territory, but keeps its sovereignty. The challenge is that there aren't many other viable paths. An indefinite forever war, with high risk of a Ukraine state collapse, i…

>The Trump Administration will resume military aid after Ukraine is forced to ceasefire talks.

Bold claim with little evidence

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People are downvoting this, but I'm always suspicious of comments online that imply they are from the US but mess up simple details that no native US user would mess up.

I dunno, a friend of mine does this, and she's a naive born American (and so are her parents). English is her only language. She knows it's "wrong", but just likes it better.

Frankly, with both percents and dollars, we say "One-hundred dollars/percent," so putting the symbol at the front is counterintuitive to how we speak.

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Well there's not much conspiracy theorizing. Politico article: >The top level of the Soviet diplomatic service arranged his 1987 Moscow visit. With assistance from the KGB. It took place while Kryuchkov was seeking to improve the KGB's operational techniques in one particular and sensitive area. The spy chief wanted KGB staff abroad to recruit more Americans... https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump…

That recites a book from a Trump hating Guardian reporter. Why would the CIA let him become president if they actually had something on him? Why would they let Gabbard (also called a "Russian asset") become DNI if they had something on her?

> Trump hating Guardian reporter

I.e. belonging to one of the few major UK news outlets not directly controlled by a billionaire...?

Re: U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Comments are disappointing for hacker news standard. This pause was predictable (I predicted it in Nov 2024). It's negotiation leverage to steer toward an immediate resolution of the war. An immediate resolution of the war cuts losses: Ukraine loses territory, but keeps its sovereignty. The challenge is that there aren't many other viable paths. An indefinite forever war, with high risk of a Ukraine state collapse, i…

> An immediate resolution of the war cuts losses: Ukraine loses territory, but keeps its sovereignty.

Only for a year or so. Without the USA in its corner, Ukraine loses sovereignty before Trump is out of office.

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