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Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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>2000's era P2P was wickedly good. I think it's only the WWW that went from wickedly good to sour and evil. The P2P world is just as good as it used to be, just not as force-fed and loud as the unhinged hellscape that is Web 2.0. If you look, you will probably find whatever you're looking for with just a DHT link.

What would you recommend these days? All I know is 2000s software like Shareaza, LimeWire, Gnutella, etc.

qBittorrent, any public tracker (pirate bay is still alive and well) or query the DHT directly using BTDigg for bonus points.

Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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but m$ doesn't have a monopoly on video/instant chat? teams is so objectively bad that anyone who was using skype will move on to a different company's product

> teams is so objectively bad What is better than Teams? I don't love Teams, but it's light years beyond what Zoom provides, and the services that Amazon and Google offer were pretty garbage last time I checked.

I worked at a company that used teams a few years ago, after an acquisition. I'd routinely not get notifications for DMs and other important messages. The devops guy was trying to figure out how to port our slack prod errors channel to teams. I felt bad for him. Can't remember if he ever succeeded.

I also really like Slacks huddles and Discord VC's (we treated them like conference rooms).

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>2000's era P2P was wickedly good. I think it's only the WWW that went from wickedly good to sour and evil. The P2P world is just as good as it used to be, just not as force-fed and loud as the unhinged hellscape that is Web 2.0. If you look, you will probably find whatever you're looking for with just a DHT link.

This. The tech works and is great. But it's not in the interests of the megacorps that took over from 2008ish onwards.

Well that and people seem to really enjoy (or at least feel compelled to use) social networks.

Social networks tend to be pretty difficult in p2p systems since the amount of traffic usually scales exponentially with network size (as posts get published to followers and shared over and over by the users of the network), which you’d want to maximize

Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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They can open source it.

Unless they also make the patents coming with it public, it would be of no use. As long as I remember, Microsoft has no good history of purchasing patents and making them public. Google has (vp7,vp8, Webm as an evolution). But probably some of the patents are expired anyway. I also doubt that they would open source the ported version (c# I suppose) but they could do this to the previous Delphi version, they developed…

Lazarus guys will have a second new Year party.

Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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I just installed Skype this week to talk to someone using Skype's translation feature. And it mostly worked okay too. Any recommendations for other products that can do real time translation decently well for free? Related, I've found it difficult to also find a good phone app for handling in person interaction. Google translate is awkward to use with its requirement to specify the direction of the language and being…

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2000's era P2P was wickedly good. P2P was such an interesting part of internet history. It's a shame client-server prevailed over it. Decentralized systems are so much more liberating. It felt like being a part of something rather than being a serf in someone's platform.

I think that NAT is a major reason why P2P and self hosting failed to take off in any significant way. I think that the internet would have been a wildly different place were IPv6 widespread in the early '00s.

I wonder why NAT hole punching techniques never took off much with P2P, it seems like with enough work getting around NAT most of the time would be possible.

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Microsoft has sent out this email: Dear Skype user, In order to streamline our consumer communications offerings, we will be retiring Skype in May 2025. As part of this change, we want to keep you informed about important updates to your Skype paid services and how these changes may affect you. Please read on for detailed information about the updates and what they mean for your services. Subscriptions & Automatic To…

Thanks for this I've not received the email yet. This bit is irritating >To port your Skype Number, please contact your new provider directly. Learn more Anyone got any recommendations on who to port to?

I have a number with VOIP.ms, which I use with Softphone app Zoiper5. I'm going to attempt to transfer my Skype number over. VOIP.ms has a "availability" tool and it indicates its possible to port it.

Re: Microsoft is killing Skype

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It is sold to integrators, not customers. No one walks into a store and buys a Windows for their computer at home, they buy a computer that has Windows already on it.

Same with car engines

Yes. Companies selling car engines, or bolts, or on-board entertainment systems, are b2b.
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