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#612Will this pop the AI bubble?
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#613In a hilarious act of accidental satire, it seems that the AI-generated audio version of the post has a weird glitch/mispronunciation within the first three words — it struggles to say "GPT-4.5".
Common issue with TTS models right now. I use ElevenLabs to dictate articles while I commute and it has a stroke on decimals and symbols.
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#614I got gpt-4.5-preview to summarize this discussion thread so far (at 324 comments): hn-summary.sh 43197872 -m gpt-4.5-preview Using this script: https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/claude-hacker-news-themes... Here's the result: https://gist.github.com/simonw/5e9f5e94ac8840f698c280293d399... It took 25797 input tokens and 1225 input tokens, for a total cost (calculated using https://tools.simonwillison.net/llm-prices…
$2.11! At this point, I'm more concerned about AI price than egg price.
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#615Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a very harsh take. Another interpretation is “We know this is much more expensive, but it’s possible that some customers do value the improved performance enough to justify the additional cost. If we find that nobody wants that, we’ll shut it down, so please let us know if you value this option”.
I think that's the right interpretation, but that's pretty weak for a company that's nominally worth $150B but is currently bleeding money at a crazy clip. "We spent years and billions of dollars to come up with something that's 1) very expensive, and 2) possibly better under some circumstances than some of the alternatives." There are basically free, equally good competitors to all of their products, and pretty much…
I don’t mean to disagree too strongly, but just to illustrate another perspective:
I don’t feel this is a weak result. Consider if you built a new version that you _thought_ would perform much better, and then you found that it offered marginal-but-not-amazing improvement over the previous version. It’s likely that you will keep iterating. But in the meantime what do you do with your marginal performance gain? Do you offer it to customers or keep it secret? I can see arguments for both approaches, neither seems obviously wrong to me.
All that being said, I do think this could indicate that progress with the new ml approaches is slowing.
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#616Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's so over, pretraining is ngmi. maybe sam Altman was wrong after all ? https://www.lycee.ai/blog/why-sam-altman-is-wrong
AI skeptics have predicted 10 of the last 0 bursts of the AI bubble. any day now...
Out of curiosity, what timeframe are you talking about? The recent LLM explosion, or the decades long AI research?
I consider myself an AI skeptic and as soon as the hype train went full steam, I assumed a crash/bubble burst was inevitable. Still do.
With the rare exception, I don’t know of anyone who has expected the bubble to burst so quickly (within two years). 10 times in the last 2 years would be every two and a half months — maybe I’m blinded by my own bias but I don’t see anyone calling out that many dates
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#617Earlier quoted context omitted.
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You’re getting downvoted because you’re giving the same kind of hysterical reaction everyone derides crypto bros for. You also lead with the pretty strong assertion that previous commenter was lying, seemingly without proving proof anyone else can find.
It's directly from the post!
I can't provide images here.
I provided the numbers.
What more can I do to show them? :)
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#618First impression of GPT-4.5: 1. It is very very slow, for some applications where you want real time interactions is just not viable, the text attached below took 7s to generate with 4o, but 46s with GPT4.5 2. The style it writes is way better: it keeps the tone you ask and makes better improvements on the flow. One of my biggest complaints with 4o is that you want for your content to be more casual and accessible bu…
Right side, by a large margin. Better word choice and more natural flow. It feels a lot more human.
Is there really no way to prompt GPT4o to use a more natural and informal tone matching GPT4.5's?
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#619For most tasks, GPT-4o/o3-mini are already great, and cheaper.
What is the real-world use case where GPT-4.5? Anyone actually seeing a game-changing difference? Please share your prompts!
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#620Bring back GPT-1. It really knew how to have a conversation.