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Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Well, yes. That’s not really a gotcha statement.

But that makes the term "social media" a very broad category that doesn't tell you much.

Yes but more importantly it's a definition that allows those who wield it to feel as though they are on the right hand side of the 'bell curve meme'.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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A World Wide Web browser.

You've mentioned AI so thought you had something different

I meant that, because of AI scrapers, reddit is no longer accessible)

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Reddit? Or the circumstances of Trump’s presidency? Hacker News is radicalizing, and is very likely going to have to decide if it’s going to be pro MAGA or not. What did people think the response was going to be once Trump did everything he said he would? People would lie back and let things happen? In America? The land of the second amendment? I mean people should be happy, after this liberals are going to be proud…

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Living in Poland ruled by trumpists for 8 years I have these experiences: - Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. - It is better to not use social media. You never know if you are discussing with normal person, a political party troll, or Russian troll. - It is not worth discussing with „switched-on” people. They…

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How did these organisations make people vote for Donald Trump?

By successfully pressuring Democratic politicians like Kamala Harris to publicly adopt progressive positions that are unpopular, but highly favored by the kind of people who donate to and operate organizations like the ACLU. For example, the (unfortunately very successful) Trump ad “Harris is for they/them, Trump is for you” ultimately originates with the ACLU. In 2019 they successfully got Harris to pledge governmen…

I really disagree with the premise that Kamala acted "too progressive"...it sounds a little bit ridiculous to even say. The Trump campaign effectively made a mountain out of a molehill, and if it weren't for this molehill, he would have used another, or fabricated one.

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So what's your alternative? Living in ignorance until it's too late?

How often do you actually act on something you saw in the news, within, say, a month? I avoid news qua news as much as possible and try to read up on things after a month or so, when the heat has gone out and more sober analysis has taken place. E.g. I'm vaguely aware there was a plane crash recently and look forward to reading a proper writeup of that at some point, but I doubt there's anything to be learnt from div…

Most stuff on the news doesn't feel like it threatens my life (e.g. Not a wildfire 5 miles away from me). So admitedtly not that often.

But probably more often than you'd expect. I see layoffs and I check up on contacts to see if they are okay. Major crashes or other kinds of disasters if I know people in the area. I see tarriffs and think "well, gotta grab stuff before that". I see issues with food and warn my family. Since a lot of my family is military I do need to check up everytime some chaos happens in DC. These aren't large actions but I do act on that knowledge.

This is definitely a case right now where I feel it's important to be informed instead of "letting it blow over". There may not be anything left this time. If you don't feel like it that's perfectly fine. But I'm genuinely looking for any ways to help, no matter how small.

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Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? The people who curate the datasets that train the YouTube recommendation model?

> Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? Not personally, but their names are public, and if they were taking backhanders there would be a scandal. Remember the payola lawsuits?

Slightly off-topic: Do you know if Spotify (and other music streaming services) are allowed to accept payment to play/recommend songs for users? I am unsure if payola rules in the United States are strictly for radio stations.

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Did people forget the_donald? What do people think others will do, when they see that the_donald behavior gets rewarded by electoral and political support? If its not clear, everyone is going to radicalize, because its getting success.

Likely take a break from social media and talk with some real people. Lots of people voted for trump aren’t radical actually none that i know are. I come from a small town in a red state and yes they completely disagree with democrats on pretty much everything but the stuff you read on reddit is so far fetched and extreme I don’t know how anyone would take it seriously. They believe people hate Americans and everyone…

You realise this works both ways? The average left leaning person doesn't have 700 pronouns and isn't calling for a communist revolution. They're not paid by Soros. They don't have blue hair and have a meltdown at the slightest upset.

The online charicatures are just that. In both directions.

Real talk though: the US, via the current administration, is trashing its international reputation. With tariffs and lashing out at (former?) allies. Or with Musk demanding regime change in the UK, for instance. On a personal level people will still be chill no doubt, but you should be prepared for some negative attitudes towards the US if things continue unabated.

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Living in Poland ruled by trumpists for 8 years I have these experiences: - Get subscription of high value newspaper or magazine. Professionals work there, so you will get real facts, worthy opinions and less emotions. - It is better to not use social media. You never know if you are discussing with normal person, a political party troll, or Russian troll. - It is not worth discussing with „switched-on” people. They…

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Account created two weeks ago, posting pretty much only right-wing propaganda comments.

A bit suspicious...

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> Lots of people voted for trump aren’t radical actually none that i know are. The same can be said for the supporters of many radical and terrible historical regimes. I'm not radical, I'm simply pushing this radical boulder along, and I can stop it whenever I wan tooo-oops."

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> stereotype [...] innuendo [...] slippery slope

No need for histrionics, it's simple: Someone doesn't need to actively desire a terrible outcome to be morally culpable of making bad choices, ones they should-have-known would enable or encourage it to happen. Multiple such people can and do form groups.

It's not limited to politics either, which is how we get idioms like "playing with fire."

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