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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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We can recruit them to fight in a war, but it might be disturbing to show them what they signed up for.

We can recruit kids to fight in a war?

People who are too young to do all or some of vote, drink, drive a car, etc., can join the army in some countries such as the US.

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I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.

spoken like a true parent, albeit irresponsible one… this situation is also rehearsed - phone on silent, text only, safe words … hope you never need to be prepared for it

This is a terrifying way to raise children.

I.e. it sounds like you've terrified your children.

Why would you do that?

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Sure, maybe in his time he was right. Maybe he wasn't. But i think if you go ask parents of grade/middle/high schoolers they'd cry with joy if their children were just addicted to reading. It's fully possible that going from only ever interacting in the real world with people to sitting alone reading all day caused some problems with integration. It's also entirely possible that phones do a different kind of thing by…

My kids are addicted to reading and I don't like it. Reading is great but not at the expense of staying up until 3am on a school night, not helping with basic household chores, not practicing music, not doing homework.

I think all of those downsides may be frustrating in the moment, but will turn out to be much less important, when viewed in the longer term.

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People get behind on taking a shower? Amongst that list it seems the only one you can’t skip out on. Unless you start putting on dirty laundry. That’s probably worse.

It kinda blows my mind if not only have you never missed taking a shower but you can't even imagine a situation in which that mighty happen. That aside, people have depression, or no access to a shower, and so miss showering for weeks even. Amongst other reasons.

I find it hard to call something ‘get behind on’ if you have no ability to do it in the first place. Getting behind on something implies it is possible and you choose (conciously or unconciously) not to.

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> Interestingly, the research didn’t show significant improvements in cognitive ability; the phone ban group showed a modest 3% boost in working memory, and there were no improvements in sustained attention. Researchers suggest that these results might mean that changes in cognitive ability could take longer than the study period of 21 days to materialise. Notice how they had decided beforehand what they were going t…

>Notice how they had decided beforehand what they were going to find out, and are making an excuse here for not finding part of it.

You are alleging this without evidence, and have no credibility to base your claims on.

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i think about this a lot as someone who had unfiltered access to the internet since being a kid around 2010. on the one hand i learned to understand english as a young boy, on my own, without realizing. on the other hand i've seen videos of beheadings, terrorist acts, violent accidents, war crimes and many more, lovely things. that being said...still not sure if it's a net-negative. feels positive to me, just not wit…

Same. Im not sure if growing up watching liveleak and browsing 4chan made me a better or worse person. I think the real effect on my life is that I was addicted to the internet and video games and didn’t socialize enough. My life turned out good, I’m married and have a decent life, but I think I missed out a lot in my university years because I was playing counter strike instead of going out and socializing and makin…

Exactly. How many hours of WoW makes up for having to explain to a girl in her 20s that it's your first date? How much YouTube does it take to forget that you had to use your cousin as your best man? How many up-votes does it cost to make sure the person who picks your retirement home isn't a stranger?

I also lucked out and ended up married to someone I love, but thinking about the number of experiences I missed out on for lack of trying is enough to make my chest feel tight. You have so much time right up until you don't.

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its hard to write in the dark

You do know bedside lamps exist, right?

Lightbulb after lightbulb going off in this thread :)

As the person who posted about the option to lock selected apps - notes and voice recorder can be easily excluded from that set.

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I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

For what it's worth, the product demands $50 for what is essentially a probably (not endorsing it!) find the NFC code online and just dump it to a tag of your own.

I bought it because it did not require a subscription and because it sounded like a smallish business - told me I had to wait a few days for it to be 3D printed.

I love the simplicity of it, the fact that it’s driven by fulfilling a need and not by greed.

Not affiliated in any way. Wish I had given this to myself years ago.

Also wish I had come up with the idea myself.

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Why does a group of Year 8 pupils (age 12-13) have smartphones in the first place? I don’t know what age I’m giving my son a smartphone but it’s sure as hell not as early as 12. “But my friends all have one”? Then I judge his friends’ parents.

There's a lot of pressure on my youngest, at Primary School in the UK, to have a phone. Their friends have TVs and game consoles in their rooms too. For our kids, they have to travel on their own when they get to highschool, so a smartphone makes sense. Family controls are pretty good nowadays, fwiw.

> Family controls are pretty good nowadays, fwiw.

Yeah, I do feel like people confuse "giving children their own smartphone" with "giving children unrestricted access to a smartphone". Parental controls really change the equation.

And counterintuitively, giving children their own smartphone actually reduces risks, simply because you can enable family control on it.

I'm not a parent myself, but as an uncle, I recently had to diagnose an android phone which had started popping up random ads. The diagnosis: parents will lend kids their smartphone, kids will install random free apps from play store, which are malicious. And Google provides absolutely no way to prevent kids from installing free apps, short of family control (there is a setting that prevents kids buying apps without a passcode). And you can't really put family control on your own phone, the concept of family control (and apple's parental controls) is designed around giving kids their own smartphone, and using the parent's smartphone to manage those restriction.

Re: School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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I find all of these bans quite interesting because when I was at school we would be figuring out how to circumvent the web filters and would be building apps to hide the games we had open on Miniclip when a teacher walked past. I think I kind of owe my software development career to these early days as that is what inspired me. We didn’t have smartphones when I was at school and I guess things weren’t as optimised to…

When I have kids (or if I ever run a school somehow), I would give my kids hackable, terminal devices that could connect to the internet with work. Both sides are doing it suboptimally. The anti smart phone crowds are suppressing kids natural desire to look for learning and new experiences outside of taking exams. The smart phone crowds underestimate the power of these multi billion dollar addiction engines. The opti…

I agree, but as someone with kids, the problem is that it has to compete with the entire environment. It's not just screens, although that's the biggest distraction factor.

There's a million more toys of every variety that are dirt cheap and that they will be given as gifts, or their friends will be given as gifts. And there's just such a huge amount of _actually great_ media to consume that's much more available, ie graphic novels and age appropriate books, way more higher quality kids show, etc etc. I'm not complaining, but a terminal environment is going to take a lot of careful planning in order to compete with an embarrassment of riches.

I still think PICO-8 did a pretty good job of capturing this; given their licensing, though, I wish they had released an actual console in addition to the fantasy console. It runs fine on a Pi Zero.

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