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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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> envoy overloaded That's the plain-text message I see when I tried to refresh the stream. Follow-up: My location: East SF Bay. Now even the Netflix frontpage (post login, https://www.netflix.com/browse ) shows the same message. The same message even in a private window when trying to visit https://www.netflix.com/browse The first round of the fight just finished, and the issues seem to be resolved, hopefully for goo…

Ah, envoy. Now that is a name I have not missed.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Reading the comments here, I think one thing that's overlooked is that Netflix, which has been on the vanguard of web-tech and has solved many complicated problems in-house, may not have had the culture to internally admit that they needed outside help to tackle this problem.

A combination of hubris and groupthink.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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post #406

On a tangential note, the match totally looked fixed to me - Tyson was barely throwing any punches. I understand age is not on his side, but he looked plenty spry when he was ducking, weaving and dodging. It seemed to me he could have done better in terms of attacking as well.

I would argue Tyson has a shorter reach, Jake was whiffing a lot of superman punches, and all that does is waste energy. Jake might be able to throw punches, but he clearly wasn't interested in taking them. If they stood closer and slugged it out, the fight could have gone either way.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are making excuses for a multibillion dollar company that has been in this game for many years. Maybe the first to market in streaming. This isn’t NFLX’s first rodeo in live streaming. Have seen a handful of events pop up in their apps. There is no excuse. All of the resources and talent at their disposal, and they looked absolutely amateurish. Poor optics. I would be amazed if they are able to secure another exc…

Sorry for the off topic but what’s this thing that I only come across in Hacker News about referring to a company by their stock exchange name (APPL, MSFT, etc) outside of a stock context? It seems really weird to me.

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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What a massive blow to NFLX. They have been in the streaming game for years (survived COVID-19) and this silly exhibition match is what does them in? I didn’t watch it live (boxing has lot its allure for me) but vicariously lived through it via social feed on Bluesky/Mastadon. Billions of dollars at their disposal and they just can’t get it right. Probably laid off the highly paid engineers and teams that made their…

It's not a "massive blow" at all. Consumers will only vaguely remember this in a month. Netflix got a lot of new signups and got to test out their streaming infrastructure to figure out what needs work.

The fight itself was lame which worked in their favor. No one really cared about not being able to see every second of the "action". It's not like it was an NBA game that came down to the last second.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Reading the comments here, I think one thing that's overlooked is that Netflix, which has been on the vanguard of web-tech and has solved many complicated problems in-house, may not have had the culture to internally admit that they needed outside help to tackle this problem. A combination of hubris and groupthink.

Not invented here syndrome works at first but as time progresses the internally built tools become a liability

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I’m not sure buffering was the biggest issue with this event. How was as 58 year old Tyson fighting a man in his 20s?

It may as well have been a WWE special. As good as scripted. It was a business venture not a competitive fight.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the whole point of chaos engineering that was invented at Netflix, which tests the resiliency of these systems. I guess we now know the limits of what "at scale" is for Netflix's live-streaming solution. They shouldn't be failing at scale on a huge stage like this. I look forward to reading the post mortem about this.

Everyone keeps mentioning at scale. I seriously doubt this was an "at scale" problem. I have strong suspicion this was a failure at the origination point being able to push a stable signal. That is not an "at scale" issue, but a hubris of we can do better/cheaper than broadcasting standard practices

I've tried to watch an old Seinfeld episode during this event. It was freezing every few minutes even at downgraded bitrate. A video that should be on my local CDN node.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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post #591

In 2012 Youtube did the Red Bull stratos live stream with 8m concurrent users. We're 12 years later, Netflix fucked up.

The average quality of talent has gone way down compared to 2012 though.

E.g. the median engineer, excluding entry level/interns, at YouTube in 2012 was a literal genius at their niche or quite close to it.

Netflix simply can’t hire literal geniuses with mid six figure compensation packages in 2024 dollars anymore… though that may change with a more severe contraction.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for the off topic but what’s this thing that I only come across in Hacker News about referring to a company by their stock exchange name (APPL, MSFT, etc) outside of a stock context? It seems really weird to me.

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brevity

Writing APPL instead of Apple doesn’t get you any fewer keystrokes.
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