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> He also was president to Russia invading Ukraine leading to a Europe wide conflict. Hamas invading Israel. I put some of the blame on Biden because the botched Afghanistan withdrawal sent the message that the US doesn't want to get involved with regional conflicts, emboldening Russia, Hamas, and Iran.
Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#612Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…
I would want to limit it by social security retirement age. I don’t really know any 70 year olds who are “all there.”
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#613Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
My opinion is if the voters are happy to send a geriatric congressman to Washington to sleep through meetings that's fine. But he shouldn't be chairing committees and other offices.
That said Reagan was suffering the beginnings of dementia during the last year or two of his presidency and the world didn't end.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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Sadly, this has never happened, anywhere, ever. The distinguishing and necessary result of democracy, practically unique when compared to any other form of government, is that it provides a nonviolent means to remove aggressively incompetent people from office.
> Sadly, this has never > happened, anywhere, ever. Didn't this literally just happen? If Biden hadn't suffered in the polls after the nature of his debate performance, I don't see how we'd be here today. However indirect the mechanism by which he was ousted, it ultimately comes down to an assessment of what candidate voters would have been willing to back.
No, this didn't happen at all. There has been no election yet, and polls are not elections, they're just random-ish samplings. The polls showed voters weren't very enthusiastic about Biden, but back in 2015, the polls showed that Trump was absolutely certain to lose in a landslide to Hillary, and that didn't happen. I do agree with the poll results this time around, but that's just my opinion and not at all backed up by an actual election, which we now won't have (since the election will have a different candidate). We'll see how well the new candidate fares.
>However indirect the mechanism by which he was ousted
This "mechanism" was not part of the government at all, and not really part of "democracy". It was just a bunch of opinion polls organized by mostly the press, and they influenced Biden to stop his campaign, but again this is not some central feature of democratic systems at all. The only way of truly assessing what candidate voters choose is to have an election. Everything else is just guesswork.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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You'd have to get Romney on board with it. You'd be electing a Democrat administration with a Republican VP. It's not split, it's just a blue ticket with a red VP. If you want to bolster the ticket, get someone that people already like. Hell, get Obama or Sanders to come back as the VP.
Obama can't be VP either as the rules are that anyone ineligible to be president can't be elected as VP (there's apparently some debate over whether they could become VP via being promoted from lower down in the succession in the event of a presidential vacancy). Sanders could, but I think he has the double issue of his two prior failed campaigns - a lot of his more motivated voters from previous times might have a "…
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#616This was a forgone conclusion since the debate but there needed to be prolonged drama to save face
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…
Joe Biden is older than 80 lol I would want to limit it by social security retirement age. I don’t really know any 70 year olds who are “all there.”
This is just tech people being tech people, as always.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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> someone that isn’t old If she wins she'll be 60 years old and 3 months old the day she assumes office. That'll make her the 13th oldest president (out of a total of 47)[1]. That's "old" by any objective definition. The only thing that makes her seem young is that the two candidates who've been in the race so far are #1 and #2 on that list. She'll certainly be a young president compared to the two oldest presidents…
60 is a perfectly reasonable age to take a demanding job, though. Most people would not consider that _80_ was.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#619Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#620Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
It's considered to be up to the voters to pick the best candidate.
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