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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by bufferoverflow »

defrost wrote: post #527
bufferoverflow wrote: post #511

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> I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform Republicans are anti-illegal immigration, not anti-immigration. Trump's wife is an immigrant. > because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. It would only be a brain drain if you filter by skills or IQ. But if you just let everyone in, you can make things worse, not…

The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%). Using the BJS statistics, the declines in the violent and property crime rates are even steeper than those captured in the FBI data. Per BJS, the U.S. violent and property crime rates each fell 71% between 1993 and 2022.…

You know what helps crime stats? Not prosecuting (some) criminals at all. Just dismiss the charges, and your stats magically get better.

Another thing you can do is reclassify felonies as misdemeanors.

Reminds you of anything?

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Post by kjkjadksj »

its_ethan wrote: post #213
epolanski wrote: post #178

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> the "Castro" regime is dictatorial and repressive. As someone whose family comes from the former Soviet union, and has friends that come from other repressive places let me tell you that this really doesn't matter. Economy and how you are doing are what matters in the day to day life of people. People really don't think about the oppression or lack of elections, they care how much they need to suffer to put food on…

They may not care about the politics, but if the politics is what contributes to the economy / shortages / difficulty in getting things like food... then the politics matter, regardless of if any given citizen is consciously aware of it. And as a reciprocal anecdote, I have family that grew up behind the iron curtain - and they were very much aware of and knew the importance of the governments politics

What can you do if you are effectively disenfranchised though? Either keep on keeping on or die in bloody revolution where there’s no certainty its not just a different oligarchy at the top when the dust settles.

Even the US suffers from this to an extent. Who the president is matters most for the people who make a lot of money from government contracts than you or I who broadly lead the same lives every presidency.

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Post by noduerme »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #571
TMWNN wrote: post #450

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>One might ask: Was that the Jews' fault? Or the host society's fault? I will speak from the perspective of one who emigrated to the US. Every new group is initially seen as "the other". After some point, however, employers that hire "the other" may find that they can pay them less because there is less demand to hire them, and thus benefit financially, they hire more. As other employers follow suit, over time the sa…

Are we really grouping all black people in one group here? The only thing that matters is income in the US. A poor white and a poor black have a lot in common, and the reason why we tend to have poorer black vs whites is because of lasting damage from institutional racism over the last century that precluded many opportunities contemporary whites had to begin building generational wealth. It’s that simple. That being…

>> the reason why we tend to have poorer black vs whites is because of lasting damage from institutional racism over the last century that precluded many opportunities contemporary whites had to begin building generational wealth

Yes. And even after the institutionalized racism was banned in various forms, the social system of racism continues to this day in the form of lower wages for the same jobs, less chance of hiring or buying a home with the same qualifications.

What I am saying is that this is the indigenous European attitude toward migrants, and it is creating generations of ghettoized people who no longer believe they can integrate, just as generations of Black people in America gave up on integration, seeing that they were still kept out on a daily basis even after having achieved legal equality.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

lo0dot0 wrote: post #313
epolanski wrote: post #178

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> the "Castro" regime is dictatorial and repressive. As someone whose family comes from the former Soviet union, and has friends that come from other repressive places let me tell you that this really doesn't matter. Economy and how you are doing are what matters in the day to day life of people. People really don't think about the oppression or lack of elections, they care how much they need to suffer to put food on…

Do you think the economy can not be influenced by political decisions? Also do you live behind the moon?

The little man is told he has all the control but really he is along for the ride. The big man plots the course and convinces the little man their interests are shared when they may not be.

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Post by coding123 »

torpfactory wrote: post #183
pton_xd wrote: post #172

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> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

There’s a very sizable number of low paying, dirty, dangerous, and/or boring jobs that we can’t find enough locals to do. Think farm hands, home care aides, meat processors, etc. Unskilled immigrants do those jobs because that’s what is available to them (I.e unskilled). If they weren’t doing those jobs, we’d have to pay significantly more for the goods and services that labor depends on. Immigrant labor is disinflat…

Meat processors. No wonder listeria incidents, salmonella and a bunch of other food born diseases are on the rise.

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Post by coding123 »

tonynator wrote: post #303
zozbot234 wrote: post #244

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> No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers. Is this why I keep reading "THEY TUKK ER JERBS!!!!!!" as a knock-down argument against H1-B and other legal visas here on HN?

We don't want to become Canada.

Apparently they are pooping on the beaches there.

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Post by coding123 »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #597
lowkey wrote: post #559

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It seems like Trump’s immigration stance has evolved significantly in the seven years since this article was written. A few weeks ago he appeared on the All-in podcast and promoted the idea of giving green cards en masse to foreign students upon graduation. I support the idea even if I don’t support the candidate.

Meanwhile if we forget what his lips are doing and watch for the fist we’d see his republican party has a different agenda. Namely one about picking certain favorite nations and excluding others. Really just read the project 2025 materials and forget whatever tangents he goes on, as he doesn’t hold himself accountable to what he might say.

So if a text says your name 100 times, you automatically wrote it? He has nothing to do with Project 2025.

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Post by noduerme »

maeil wrote: post #604
avz wrote: post #495

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The US has extended the protection of the law to the law-abiding Irish, Italians, Germans, Russians, Jews, East Asians, Indians, and Latinos freeing them up to flourish and build human capital. By contrast, the same state has not only failed to do so for the Black community, but its agents have engaged in extrajudicial killings of the community's members with impunity since they lost their legal "protection" as someo…

> Regarding Indian Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims, I disagree they are indistinguishable for outsiders. Typically, anybody who cares can tell by the name, place where they live, or even just the job they do. It is only recently that some white Brits may have started clueing on to this. While these trends were emerging, this was definitely not the case. And even now, it very often is not the case. To give an example, plent…

It's most significant, though, that you even say "Brits from Pakistani muslim backgrounds". No one says "French from Algerian muslim backgrounds". A French person with an Algerian background can only be a descendant of one of the million or so ethnic French who colonized Algeria, and is in no case a Muslim. The UK is far ahead of the continent in terms of integration, and the US is light years ahead of that.

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Post by coding123 »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #596
refurb wrote: post #557

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That's an article from 7 years ago? Don't you think it makes more sense to look at Trump's 2024 platform? https://rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/ The only statement on legal immigration: "Republicans will prioritize Merit-based immigration, ensuring those admitted to our Country contribute positively to our Society and Economy, and never become a drain on Public Resources."

The amount of room they give to interpret that vague statement however they want could fit an aircraft carrier. Their actual policy position is in their project 2025 materials and it curtails legal immigration pretty significantly along similar lines that trump attempted to tread in his first presidency.

Stop spreading mis-info about Trump and Project 2025 which he is not involved in.

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Post by Georgelemental »

noduerme wrote: post #322
gottorf wrote: post #201

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> I'm not concerned about the crime You may not be concerned about the crime, but many voters are. The author of the article you linked to also exhorts the Somali immigrant community to not engage in crime. > because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency until the 2nd and 3rd generation is able to make it into established society. History and data from various European nations suggest that some immigrant groups…

> various European nations [...] some immigrant groups American Jew here, who spent years living in France and Spain. I've heard the same polite euphemisms refering to Arabs and Gypsies from the mouths of members of the Front National. You know, before 1945 it was said in Europe that Jews weren't able to integrate fully with the host society. One might ask: Was that the Jews' fault? Or the host society's fault? It's…

Many Gypsies do integrate, and soon they are no longer Gypsies. The ones that remain are the descendants of generation after generation that chose again and again not to integrate. See also the Irish Travellers, an ethnically unrelated group with a similar culture.
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