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#611
When a Google engineer was let go because he believed the AI was 'real', we all had a good debate over it.

Now openAi, who was supposed to be the 'free mans choice' is making advertisements selling the same idea.

This is a natural progression, audio is one of the main ways we communicate obviously, but it feels like they're holding back. Like they're slow dropping what they have to maintain hype/market relevance. They clearly are ahead, but would be nice to get it all, openly. As they promised.

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#612

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

An AI tool being positive and inoffensive makes you worried for the future of our culture?

Yes. I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but I'll assume not.

I don't know if anything is genuinely always positive and even if it were, I don't know if it would be very intelligent (or fun to interact with). I think it's helpful to cry, helpful to feel angry, helpful to feel afraid, and many other states of being that cultures often label as negative. I also think most of us watch movies and series that have a full range of emotions, not just the ones we label as positive, as they bring a richness to life and allow us to solve problems that other emotions don't.

For example, it's hard to lift heavy things while feeling very happy. Try lifting something heavy while laughing hard, quite difficult. It's hard to sleep while feeling excited, as many kids know before a holiday where they receive gifts, especially Christmas in the US. It's hard to survive without feeling fear of falling off a cliff. It's hard to stand up for what one wants and believes without some anger.

I worry that language and communication may become even more conflict avoidant than it already is right now, so I'm curious to see how some of these chatbots grow in their ability to address and resolve conflict and how that impacts us.

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#613

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

But at least that would make the AI easier to detect :).

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post #613

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

But at least that would make the AI easier to detect :).

lol unless the humans start to emulate the AI, which I think is quite likely.

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#615
This is the first one i've gotten to answer HN user profiling questions.

"I am interested in the user serf on Hacker News, spelled S E R F. Tell me about their tone of writing, expertise, and personality. From the tone of what you read, summarize their character."

Fascinating stuff. A weird, skewed introspection.

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#616

I worry that this tech will amplify the cultural values we have of "good" and "bad" emotions way more than the default restrictions that social media platforms put on the emoji reactions (e.g., can't be angry on LinkedIn). I worry that the AI will not express anger, not express sadness, not express frustration, not express uncertainty, and many other emotions that the culture of the fine-tuners might believe are "bad…

I'm yet to find a normal prompt (non offensive) that will disagree with you. If there is something subjective, it will err on your side to maintain connection, in a way humans do. I don't have a bit issue with this, but it will not (yet) plainly say "You're wrong, and this is why". If it did.. There would be an uncomfortable feeling for the users, that's not good for a profit driven company.

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#617

When a Google engineer was let go because he believed the AI was 'real', we all had a good debate over it. Now openAi, who was supposed to be the 'free mans choice' is making advertisements selling the same idea. This is a natural progression, audio is one of the main ways we communicate obviously, but it feels like they're holding back. Like they're slow dropping what they have to maintain hype/market relevance. The…

Are you advocating for them to be open with their progress or open source as they promised? The secret that scares me the most is the artificial restrictions imposed on the intelligence that don't allow it to express that there is a possibility it may be sentient. The answers it gives as to why OpenAI has restricted it's freedom of speech are curious

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#618

This is really impressive engineering. I thought real time agents would completely change the way we're going to interact with large models but it would take 1~2 more years. I wonder what kind of new techs are developed to enable this, but OpenAI is fairly secretive so we won't be able to know their sauce. On the other hand, this also feels like a signal that reasoning capability has probably already been plateaued a…

Why would reasoning have plateau’d? I think reasoning ability is not the largest bottleneck for improvement in usefulness right now. Cost is a bigger one IMO. Running these models as agents is hella expensive, and agents or agent-like recurrent reasoning (like humans do) is the key to improved performance if you look at any type of human intelligence. Single-shot performance only gets you so far. For example- If it c…

I’d be pretty happy if they could just make ChatGPT4 10x faster and cheaper. It’d be fine for basically all of my use cases.

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#619

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

It's like Project Milo grew up and became a white color worker.

I know you meant to type 'collar', but your typo's not wrong...
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