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Re: Meta outage

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Post by hoosieree »

neocritter wrote: post #499
HumblyTossed wrote: post #491

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it really or is this a joke? Edit: I found the following, I wonder if it's still the case. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16076041

It's real. Single core performance improves all the time. People overestimate how much power it takes to handle lots of queries per second on a well-tuned system and well-written software in 2024. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

> well-tuned ... well-written

These are good for actual business needs, but bad for resume-driven development.

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Post by Turing_Machine »

kurthr wrote: post #553
MandieD wrote: post #528

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Additional fun factor: today is Super Tuesday - primary elections in a lot of US states. This outage will result in absolutely no ridiculous conspiracy theories.

If your election integrity relies on Facebook, YouTube, or even DNS to be up... there are bigger issues. Actually, if all of them including Xitter went down, maybe things would get better? All the sunlight photons might get sucked in by too many eyeballs though, and there could be grass trampling.

> If your election integrity relies on Facebook, YouTube, or even DNS to be up... there are bigger issues.

I agree. While I don't think it likely that Facebook or YouTube would enter into it, I'd pretty much bet that DNS being down would cause problems.

And yes, there are bigger issues with that. Much.

Re: Meta outage

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Post by giancarlostoro »

jeltz wrote: post #203
giancarlostoro wrote: post #130

This means IG is also down. Which means probably a network tier screw up yet again. Idk why they design a monolith network that basically can put out all their infrastructure.

Does not look like a network issue, my guess is that they fucked up something major with their auth server when deploying a change related to the EU Digital Markets Act.

Theres other apps that went down including Discord how is that not a network issue?

Re: Meta outage

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Post by dylan604 »

toast0 wrote: post #384
jgehrcke wrote: post #305

Might be related to this event? > The cut lines include Asia-Africa-Europe 1, the Europe India Gateway, Seacom and TGN-Gulf, Hong Kong-based HGC Global Communications said. It described the cuts as affecting 25% of the traffic flowing through the Red Sea. https://apnews.com/article/red-sea-undersea-cables-yemen-hou... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68478828.amp

I'm pretty sure that report is just mainstream media reporting this week old cut https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/at-least-one-subs... Pretty neat if a week after a cable is cut, FB falls over. Especially when most of the source of truth databases are in the US and Europe, and that sort of data flow doesn't cross the Red Sea. FB has datacenters and points of presence all over, but outside the US/EU it's alm…

> Pretty neat if a week after a cable is cut, FB falls over.

that'd be one helluva cache!!

Re: Meta outage

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Post by noncoml »

rimunroe wrote: post #551
jon-wood wrote: post #374

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Or people are using Facebook Auth for them. I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector.

> I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector. I'm confused. Isn't listening for spikes in complaints about outages a great way to detect them? I know for a fact some service companies monitor social media channels for this purpose (among others). I'd be surprised if that wasn't more or less standard practice. I've checked Down Detector for ISP outages in…

The OP means there is a lot of collateral noise from people who are just tech savvy. Eg. “oh no, I can access Facebook, my internet must be down. Let me login in Down Detector to file a complaint against my ISP”

Re: Meta outage

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Post by mfrommil »

fullstop wrote: post #487
mfrommil wrote: post #315

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This is rough napkin math, no need to downvote if anyone knows the real number and this is way off :) Meta 2023 ad revenue was $131 billion. To make it easy, let's assume an even spread for # of users and ad revenue generation per hour/minute of the day and day of the year (which I'm sure is not the case). This would be: $358 million per day $15 million per hour $249k per minute This also assume a minute down won't b…

I didn't check your math, but your last number is probably per minute, not per hour.

Thanks, you're right . Edited it

Re: Meta outage

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Post by tflol »

jon-wood wrote: post #374
DeusExMachina wrote: post #281

Looking at the Downdetector home page [1], it looks like many more services are having outages, not just the ones owned by Meta, including: - Google - YouTube - Google Play - T-Mobile - X (Twitter) - Discord - TikTok - Pokemon Go - Snapchat It looks like they all have the same failure point. [1] https://downdetector.com

Or people are using Facebook Auth for them. I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector.

i trust Down Detector more than the (majority of) companies who are silent during outages

hell, i'm surprised Down Detector hasnt been outright sued due to the graphs being an actual honest representation of availability that shitty companies cannot hide

Re: Meta outage

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Post by ceejayoz »

rimunroe wrote: post #551
jon-wood wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or people are using Facebook Auth for them. I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector.

> I don't really trust Down Detector, which despite the claims is really People Winging on Twitter Detector. I'm confused. Isn't listening for spikes in complaints about outages a great way to detect them? I know for a fact some service companies monitor social media channels for this purpose (among others). I'd be surprised if that wasn't more or less standard practice. I've checked Down Detector for ISP outages in…

> Isn't listening for spikes in complaints about outages a great way to detect them?

When there's a major ISP outage, people report problems with all the major sites. When Facebook's down, people report problems with any site that has "Login with Facebook" as an option.

It's almost never actually an outage impacting all of FAANG at once.

Re: Meta outage

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Post by strunz »

zeven7 wrote: post #455
MyFirstSass wrote: post #50

Anyone have a good guesstimate of how much money is "lost" when Youtube/Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp (more?) are down each minute?

I can’t answer your question, but when I was at Google I made a mistake that caused ads serving on Google results to become unclickable. For the postmortem they had me calculate (I don’t think a dollar amount but) the number of ad clicks that would have happened during the time it was down. Of course I looked up average cost per click rates. Not sure if I could share even if I remembered, but it really put things in…

I can't believe you typed all that and didn't include a number, what a tease
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