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Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by didip »

cyrialize wrote: post #409

Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

What to be depressed about? Every technological advancement is always a net positive to humanity, so far.

OSS so far has been an effective tool as a check and balance against big corp.

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Post by astrange »

cyrialize wrote: post #409

Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

Nothing on this page has any relevance to employment or UBI. Also, there is strong evidence that UBI doesn't affect employment much one way or the other.

Whether people are employed or not is a policy decision of the central bank and not related to how good AI is.

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rglover wrote: post #454

I was super on board until I saw... the paw : https://player.vimeo.com/video/913131059?h=afe5567f31&badge=... Exciting for the potential this creates, but scary for the social implications (e.g., this will make trial law nearly impossible).

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Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by lubesGordi »

cyrialize wrote: post #409

Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

I think the deal is that these breakthroughs, aren't really great in any general case. It helps with specific instances of work, and makes individuals way more productive. That by itself might won't end up making some people obsolete. I think by and large, its just going to make people more productive. You probably don't want to work somewhere where that isn't a welcome thing.

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Post by bondarchuk »

cyrialize wrote: post #409

Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

UBI, social safety nets, power.. Because of videos? I don't get it. Obvious second-order effect is a devaluation of visual media. Let it all burn, who cares? Go live in the real world. Current mass media culture is an anomaly stemming from hyper-centralization of culture creation. Where we're going is a reversal to the mean.

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Post by a_vanderbilt »

nuz wrote: post #61

This is the second time OpenAI has released something right at the same time as google did (Gemini 1.5 Pro with 10M token context length just now). Can't just be a coincidence

I too noticed the coincidence. Not to be a conspiracy theorist but part of me wonders if they share this information with each other, or if OpenAI has advancements like these sitting in the chamber and they are willing wait a few weeks before they release them to maximize the impact of the timing.

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Post by blibble »

cyrialize wrote: post #409

Does anyone know how to handle the depression/doom one feels with these updates? Yes, it's a great technical achievement, but I just worry for the future. We don't have good social safety nets, and we aren't close to UBI. It's difficult for me to see that happen unless something drastic changes. I'm also afraid of one company just having so much power. How does anyone compete?

personally I am glad my past self focused on FIRE 10 years ago

I am hoping our society and civilisation doesn't implode as everyone becomes unemployable as the economy and social contract collapses

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by zamadatix »

sschueller wrote: post #131
treesciencebot wrote: post #14

This is leaps and bounds beyond anything out there, including both public models like SVD 1.1 and Pika Labs' / Runway's models. Incredible.

Yes, but I am stuck in their (American) view of what is consider appropriate. Not what is legal, but what they determine to be OK to produce. Good luck generating anything similar to an 80s action movie. The violence and light nudity will prevent you from generating anything.

I wonder how much of it is really "concern for the children" type stuff vs not wanting to deal with fights on what should be allowed and how and to who right now. When film was new towns and states started to make censorship review boards. When mature content became viewable on the web battles (still ongoing) about how much you need to do to prevent minors from accessing it came up. Now useful AI generated content is the new thing and you can avoid this kind of distraction by going this route instead.

I'm not supporting it in any way, I think you should be able to generate and distribute any legal content with the tools, but just giving a possible motive for OpenAI being so conservative whenever it comes to ethics and what they are making.

Re: Sora: Creating video from text

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Post by a_vanderbilt »

Zelphyr wrote: post #90
nuz wrote: post #61

This is the second time OpenAI has released something right at the same time as google did (Gemini 1.5 Pro with 10M token context length just now). Can't just be a coincidence

Not to mention, the Gemini 1.5 Pro announcement was almost all technical talk whereas Sora is light on text and heavy on demonstration. I'm actually worried about the future of Google at this point. They really seem to be struggling under their own weight.

And the tech demo of GPT-4 was Sam interacting with the thing and showing what it did well and where it faltered. We could also access the thing soon after. Not so with Gemini. Hell even Mixtral got me more excited.
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