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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by MrDresden »

Firefox is fantastic!

Please try it out both if it would be your first time or if it has been years since the last time.

Also, if you do any web development at all please make sure to test your code on Firefox.

I keep having to phone up companies when their webpages don't work on Firefox and ask to talk to someone related to IT (yes, I do this and it does work).

It is a bit of an awkward discussion when I'm told that their developers have tested the code on Chrome, and I point out that Firefox and Safari also exist.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by wesapien »

We could have a great browser in Firefox but it's been infiltrated by the same corporate virus we see everywhere. They need to just stick to creating a browser first before other initiatives. They need to listen to their users.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by Dalewyn »

echelon wrote: post #531
wharvle wrote: post #522

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox doesn’t need to get me to “engage” when I’m already in their browser.

Firefox needs to make money.

Indeed, their CEO wants her fat paycheck.[1]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Negative_salary...

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by r3d0c »

dspillett wrote: post #476
jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

I'm fully switching to FF at home now. I'd half done it but had a large collection of tabs open in Chrome which kept pulling me back as I couldn't be bothered with reassessing them all (a fair I should have closed) and recording the ones I still wanted to keep elsewhere. Chrome gave me the final push the other day by completely forgetting most of those open items during an update. I'd not encountered anything broken…

one-tab or supatabs extensions

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by mr_spothawk »

scruple wrote: post #524
jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

I've been using Firefox for regular browsing for years now, but I use Chrome for streaming videos (Firefox streaming quality is noticably worse) and LibreWolf for YouTube (blocks ads). It's annoying to have 3 browsers open basically all of the time.

I'm slowly migrating a lot of my browsing out of Safari and into LibreWolf, and using the opportunity to document accounts/passwords that i want to keep.

If i were willing to get an iPhone, then i'd be quite happy with Safari (i don't have Chrome installed on my Mac), but I want the ability to have my bookmarks available on multiple phones & computers... so firefox profiles (in LibreWolf) is the mechanism i've decided to use for that (for now)

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by CharlesW »

tslocum wrote: post #582
CharlesW wrote: post #517

To Mozilla: In 2024, please switch to WebKit. Gecko had a good and honorable run, but no longer sparks joy. It's not a differentiator, which means that the resources you're applying to it are a waste of time and money. Please thank Gecko for serving its purpose in our lives and let it go, before its reputation gets worse. Firefox's market share has slipped so far that most web developers no longer test with it. Adopt…

Mentioning Gecko repeatedly without mentioning WebRender, the rendering engine that many users are using today in Firefox, and which will become the default/only rendering engine at some point in the future,[0] makes it seem that you have no idea about what you are speaking of. 0. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/GFX/WebRender_Where

Gecko is the browser engine.

WebRender is a component of Gecko, specifically a GPU-based 2D rendering engine. It is not a browser engine.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by lcof »

hutzlibu wrote: post #214
krastanov wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…

"Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites" .. for you. I regulary ran across something that does not work or has a broken style. And I know how to turn UO off. And why should that be a surprise? FF has way less manpower than Chrome. (And even fired lots of engineers, to raise the CEO bonus) Chrome leads the way and probably the vast majority developes for chrome and with chrome dev tools. So most…

Then we can compare brave and firefox in terms of speed. I don’t see any noticeable performance difference (I use both on linux and macos)

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by tomwheeler »

xpressvideoz wrote: post #521

> the only remaining ethical web browser I hate associating ethics with technical debates. Chrome didn't win by being ethical, it won by being better. Plain words cannot save Firefox from losing its market share. I know battling against tech giants is hard, but appealing to ethics will only lead to hostility for some people.

I'd argue that it "won" (read: achieved the majority of market share) because it was relentlessly pushed by Google, the search engine with the majority of market share.
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