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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by MonaroVXR »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #295
demondemidi wrote: post #97

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Were they luxury cars, like teslas?

> Were they luxury cars, like teslas? Teslas are priced as luxury cars but they aren't luxury cars. They have strong selling points, like the amazing battery compared to other EVs or their looks (I do find the Model S very nice / sleek) but the quality of the interior/materials and sound proofing simply isn't there, not by a mile. Here's a list, for example, of some actual luxury cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F…

Totally agree with your sentiment

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Post by MonaroVXR »

nucleardog wrote: post #550
roflyear wrote: post #346

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Right? It's remarkable seeing people here defending Tesla while saying "I've only had a few major issues in four years" I've had a Hyundai for ten years and literally crashed it into a tree and it had no major issues for five years after that (and I gave it away and it ran for another five until it protected someone from a head on collision!). Now I'm on a ten year old Honda and haven't don't anything except regular…

My Subaru is a decade old now. The air conditioner clutch went after 6 years. That’s it. That’s the entire list of what I’ve had to do outside of regular fluid changes and basic consumables (e.g., break pads). Subaru is generally not near the top of the list as far as reliability. And my car should be one of their less reliable models as it’s the turbocharged sports sedan. And it’s had one issue in a decade. A few ma…

I've the feeling a lot of people trash the car itself and modifying it

Of course it's going to be unreliable

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Post by MonaroVXR »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #457
gruez wrote: post #408

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>Lease cars as part of your work comp are relatively common in the tech sector here. It's not treated as income by the tax authorities? If so, I'd rather have them hand me cash instead so I can get the car I want, and won't be out of a car when I'm laid off/quit.

In Belgium and Luxembourg, it's considered as taxable benefit and the amount is based on the type of car. You usually end up paying 200-300 €/month as tax directly deduced from your salary but for that amount you have a new car with all the servicing included, even tires. A few years ago, it was part of the standard salary package for many companies in IT so you weren't really without a car when leaving. Some places…

Same for the Netherlands as this is happening for me

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

fnord77 wrote: post #206
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #45

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This makes me a feel a lot better about choosing a Toyota over a Tesla back in 2019. The one unforgivable thing about the Toyota is the infotainment system. What a blight on humanity. But otherwise, such a great car. I’ve never really liked cars until this thing. It’s so comfortable, reliable, cheap to maintain, and makes all of our trips like camping and mountain biking such a joy. The Tesla would have been such a h…

which model Toyota?

It’s a 2017 Highlander.

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Post by runeks »

hatsix wrote: post #431
RedShift1 wrote: post #228

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The interior is cheap. Even my 10 year old BMW 1 series interior feels better and is much sturdier.

Your BMW 1 series is considered a luxury car. A new sedan is close to twice the Model 3. Tesla is not a luxury car company. You pay a premium for the electric part, and put up with everything else. They took a risk that nobody else was willing to make and proved a market. We're in a better place, ecologically speaking because of them. Their cars are also cheaply made. Now that manufacturers that know what they're doi…

> Your BMW 1 series is considered a luxury car.

The 2013 BMW 1 Series had a starting price of $35k. A Tesla model 3 starts at $40k in today’s dollars. Seems pretty even.

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Post by madaxe_again »

korhojoa wrote: post #496
madaxe_again wrote: post #368

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Portugal. 2018 Amarok.

Do you have the basic media unit that doesn't do anything or what? Otherwise you can just google the instructions to update and unlock your unit's features for free. Most MIB2(.5) units can easily be hacked.

It ain’t MIB2, or MIB - rather some ancient POS that runs android 6 and doesn’t even have a USB port. It’s just… Iberia, I guess. They know they can get away with getting rid of crap old stock here and people will accept it as the shiny new thing.

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Post by dgellow »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #562
dgellow wrote: post #241

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How is Tesla still considered a startup? It’s a 20 years old company with a 80billion valuation and more than 100k employees Edit: I even missed a zero, it has a 800billion valuation

> 80billion valuation You mean 800 billion valuation?

Yes, that’s stated explicitly at the end of my comment

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Post by darthrupert »

seanieb wrote: post #202
darthrupert wrote: post #190

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I cannot say much about parts quality since I have owned my Tesla only for 6 months, but the software is top of the line of EVs. There seems to be a bunch of Musk hatred that people just transfer to Tesla hatred.

It would be much more productive to ask why rather than to dismiss my observations as some sort of grunge against the CEO. See my other comments. I also have a Volvo XC60 with lane keeping, I find it's much more reliable than Autopilot and doesn't dangerous "phantom break" at highway speeds for no reason. See my other comment for some more, but not an exhaustive list, of the issues I have with my Model 3.

The phantom break thing is irritating, but it's probably due to the emergency braking system, which saves lives in its own way. Does the Volvo have a similar system?

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Post by seanieb »

darthrupert wrote: post #618
seanieb wrote: post #202

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It would be much more productive to ask why rather than to dismiss my observations as some sort of grunge against the CEO. See my other comments. I also have a Volvo XC60 with lane keeping, I find it's much more reliable than Autopilot and doesn't dangerous "phantom break" at highway speeds for no reason. See my other comment for some more, but not an exhaustive list, of the issues I have with my Model 3.

The phantom break thing is irritating, but it's probably due to the emergency braking system, which saves lives in its own way. Does the Volvo have a similar system?

Yes, I believe they were one of the first companies to have that feature. It was on my previous XC60 too, which was my primary car. I never experienced one case of phantom breaking on the highway, while I don’t drive a lot I believe 4-5 years of driving XC60’s has given me a good feel for their system.

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Post by ryukoposting »

akie wrote: post #396
ryukoposting wrote: post #236

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Do they move fast, though? The Model S is ancient history now, and the Model X is aging too. Both models are in need of a successor.

I once read an opinion that stated that Tesla will eventually lose because they don't continually introduce new or updated models (say, every year) like other car brands do, and that person thought that they will lose customer favor because of it because their cars will be "the old thing" with no "new thing" available. In other words: Cars are fashion too, and Tesla only has one entry in each category. It's a good en…

An interesting take. I think we're already moving in a direction (at least in the US) where Tesla is becoming less "cool," but that's mostly because of their CEO, not their cars.

Tesla targets a very narrow range of the car market. It doesn't make much sense for them to have two similar-sized models, because the Venn diagram of "people who want an EV" and "people who want a $SIZE $BODY_STYLE" is already pretty narrow.

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