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It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are losing stupid amounts of money, with no major plan to recoup their investments. Board probably took a look at updated burn-rate projections, saw that they have 6 months of runway, saw that they don't have enough GPUs, saw that Llama and Mistral and whatever other open-source models are awesome and run on personal computers, and thought to themselves - why the hell are w…

I mean GPT-4 is just so good. Have you compared GPT-4 vs. other models for coding? I'd pay more for GPT-4.

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- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…

Why do people think it has to be some single big incident? Sam Altman has been the head of OpenAI for many years now, while the company has been in intense public spotlight only in the recent few months. The dynamic today is very different from 2019 or whenever he was hired. He also doesn't have any voting shares, which means he is entirely at the mercy of the board. It's entirely possible that they simply don't like…

If it was a simple disagreement in direction then (1) the transition wouldn't be so abrupt and (2) they wouldn't publicly call him a liar.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#615

Can't say I saw this coming. This is deeply sad to me. OpenAI did so much life changing work so quickly. It has totally changed my life in terms of enabling an absolutely unprecedented increase in my own personal productivity and how ambitious I can be with my projects. And even though I know Sam didn't personally code the key things, I believe that it never would have happened the way it did without his instincts an…

what a bizarre pov about sam altman.

what accomplishment of his has impressed you so much? his entire career has been:

1. start a dumb startup that goes nowhere

2. get a job at YC handing out other people's money

3. a very dumb and creepy crypto currency project

4. be CEO of openai, which means having no direct influence on the product or engineering at all

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#616

- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…

Kara Swisher just tweeted that MSFT knew about it merely minutes before the statement went out: https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725657068575592617 Folks like Schmidt, Levchin, Chesky, Conrad have twitter posts up that weirdly read like obituaries.

Check out Microsoft’s stock price today. Looks like it dropped by almost $50B at one point.

EDIT Microsoft is such a huge company, so maybe this is not a big deal?

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#618

It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are losing stupid amounts of money, with no major plan to recoup their investments. Board probably took a look at updated burn-rate projections, saw that they have 6 months of runway, saw that they don't have enough GPUs, saw that Llama and Mistral and whatever other open-source models are awesome and run on personal computers, and thought to themselves - why the hell are w…

OpenAI’s models are, quality wise, pretty far ahead of competition. So that’s what they’re spending so much money on. There’s a history of creating things that are expensive then rapidly bringing down the cost, which is what they’ve been doing rather than creating GPT-5
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