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Check out the “obsolescence statement” on the Raspberry Pi product pages. The 3B+ will remain in production until at least 2028 https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-... and the 4 until at least 2031 https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/...
Remain in production could mean like the nano 2 W which is manufactured in such small numbers it’s never in stock.
I question whether it's wise to launch a new product before the supply chain issues which have plagued Raspberry Pi for years have been fully resolved. Granted, the situation has improved slightly over the past few months. But you will still find Pi 4s out of stock more often than not. The CEO said last year not to expect a Pi 5 in 2023, because they wanted to take the time to recover. Why the u-turn? https://www.the…
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rPI went from armv6 to armv7 to armv8. CortexA76 does not even support using 32 bit kernels. Rp1 requires an armv6 32 bit kernel. There is NO kernel build on earth that would run on both an pi1 and a pi5 and no amount of efi would help. (I am ignoring the possibility of custom nasty hacks to make a polyglot kernel). We’ll have per-device images until we standardize on a single architecture or at least a subset of one…
Yeah, I can live with images per architecture; the problem is needing an image specifically for the pi. I want the same thing as we get on x86; sure, there are separate images for i686 and x86_64, but there's not one image for Dell and one for HP and one for Lenovo and...
No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…
My gripe is that the original Pi cost $35 at launch and while they have made a better Pi...They have not made a Pi at that price ever again, even accounting for Inflation. Furthermore, increased power consumption and features have added big price jumps to the required Accessories. Now you need miniHDMI adapters rather than more common HDMI, you need cooling, you need more expensive power adapters. a fully set up Pi 1…
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The idea that even 10-20% of users would power their Pis with PoE seems wild to me. Seems like a much smaller niche to me (even though I'm one of those people). Anyway, I have been wondering whether a headless-oriented SKU wouldn't make sense. Pay for the PoE BOM by jettisoning the video output.
I'm really surprised that PoE isn't more prevalent that is currently the case, but I guess it's because most people prefer WiFi devices. I'd add network jacks to everything and remove the power plugs if the option was presented. Most "normal" people seem to be the other way around. "Wireless" speakers (they'd be networks speakers then) / home assistant devices / media players and whatever else should always be attach…
Surprised by the amount of negativity here. So many comments that are saying the raspberry pi isn't competitive in their market anymore and then post more locked down less open systems at 2x the price.
Seriously dude, why would you even want a new aarch64 SBC when you could buy a used NUC off ebay or just use a laptop you pulled out of a dumpster?
Since replacing an old workstation for secondary/media computer in my office, and my laptop with Apple Silicon systems, I've been incredibly pleased with the efficiency one can get from heterogeneous core layouts in traditional compute devices. Not to mention the drop in thermals in my office. The summer I swapped out that secondary/media machine for the Mac Mini, the temperature in my office dropped 5 degrees Fahrenheit, while being just as capable for the things I used that machine for.
I'd like to do the same for my compute nodes in the house, which power my homelab for various workloads. Apple hardware's value retention doesn't make sense to pick up, even used, especially when I would have to trust an Asahi-flavored distro to make that work, so the platform stability isn't there. I don't need GPIO, so most SBC offerings just don't make sense. The only thing that comes close is the LattePanda Sigma, which would get me an Intel platform with efficiency cores. A SBC or even a NUC-like platform with a higher core count, at the $3-500 price point, would honestly be great! It just doesn't seem to be a market yet, and I don't imagine it will be until we see more penetration with ARM as a desktop compute platform.
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The worst part about it is they require a nonstandard, USB-C standard-violating proprietary power brick that does 5V5A. None of your 100W Anker or Apple power bricks will supply this. They'll do 12V3A, 12V5A, 20V5A, but not 5V5A. Yet another piece of nonstandard USB-C equipment.
It’s worth noting that this is _allowed_ by the USB-PD spec, but you’re right that 5V @ 5A is not common because it is not required. At least it’s better than the Pi 4 was at launch? :D
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I mean, keep in mind that the Pi5 is a $60 device with ~$60+ of support hardware (Power supply, cable, miniHDMI to HDMI, Cooling, Case, Storage) You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Also, you are reducing eWaste.
> You can get considerably more powerful mini PCs for less than a 4GB Pi5 with needed accessories that is upgradable, has further software support, and includes all of what you need to get with a Pi. Name three, please, with emphasis on the "considerably more powerful" part.
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There was at least one NUC with a full GPIO header set. The DE3815TYKHE. I've done motor control, I2C and sensor IO with it and it was rock solid on that little NUC. There was also the UP Board which was an Atom SOC with PI compatible GPIO. I believe that's still in production?!
Oh wow that's the first I'm seeing that, looks like it's still available though a bit pricey for over 1 GB of memory. https://up-shop.org/up-board-series.html Then again that is severely dated, the Atom was a very capable processor... when it launched, almost a decade ago.