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Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Re: Apollo will close down on June 30th

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Post by IAmGraydon »

baq wrote: post #143
willidiots wrote: post #96

I hope Apollo's not overplaying their hand here, though it's super interesting hearing these conversations from the inside. It's clear reddit's got it out for the 3p apps, and I'm personally leaving reddit over this (longtime RIF user), but this post is a bit concerning. It focuses on the "[apollo can] quiet down [for $10M]" topic in the conversation, and the apparent misunderstanding between Apollo and Reddit, Reddi…

I’m an Apollo user and can’t stand Reddit in any other form anymore. Apollo stops working and I’m out.

I'm also an Apollo user and plan to leave Reddit. Honestly, I'm kind of glad I'm being pushed to leave. Reddit has become a complete cesspool since 2016, and has only gotten exponentially worse since then. While I really enjoy the niche subs I participate in, the large subs are just a breeding ground for extremist views on both sides as well as some of the craziest conspiracy theories around. Good riddance.

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Post by hackernewds »

durumu wrote: post #351
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #44

Honestly, I'm surprised that spez kept his job after getting caught modifying user comments straight from the production db[0]. That's who these people are dealing with, to be clear. And now he's accusing Apollo of threatening Reddit? Give me a break. How is this the guy who's gonna lead Reddit to the promised land? 0: https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...

I mean that was really stupid of him, but it seems like the kind of thing someone would do impulsively one time and then never again after getting reprimanded. Meanwhile, this API debacle has made me lose all respect for Reddit and its leadership — if everything the Apollo dev is saying is true, this is completely inexcusable. Reddit lied to the faces of the developers who trusted them and depended on them for their…

The comment editing in production is indefensible. However, there is legitimate reason to suspect the Apollo founder did suggest a monetary buyout in exchange for "going quiet". It is evident in the audio recording posted by the Apollo founder himself, top post of reddit at the moment.

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Post by mock-possum »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #74

I'm not a user of Apollo, and honestly have been perfectly fine using old.reddit.com on both mobile and desktop. That said, while I realize it's just his side of the story, the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational (and he apparently has the receipts to back it up), while Reddit comes across as embodying typical corporate greed. On a related note, I think everyone should understand that,…

> the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational

honestly that's why Apollo is one of the rare apps I've actually fully paid for - iamthatis aka Christian is such a solid dude, always keeps his cool, no drama, gets his work done, cares about his users, like - it's a tragedy that Reddit is killing off his masterwork. They ought to be hiring him to do their mobile apps for them.

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Post by moritzwarhier »

Sad. Just bought Apollo in March. But no hard feelings.

Anyway, this will probably stop my Reddit consumption altogether.

Already deleted my account a while ago, because some discussions became too toxic for me. Stil enjoying to read there and Apollo made it really enjoyable, even better than rif is fun on Android.

Is there a good archive of previous Reddit content until now?

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Post by hackernewds »

wolpoli wrote: post #29

> Steve: "Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy” if Reddit gave them $10 million." Steve: "This guy behind the scenes is coercing us. He's threatening us." I can't believe that CEO of Reddit was telling internal people that Apollo tried to blackmail Reddit for a $10 million payout when that didn't happen.

If you listen to the audio recording, it does appear the founder of Apollo heavily and directly proposed a buyout of $10M to go quiet.

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Post by re »

orangea wrote: post #542
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #74

I'm not a user of Apollo, and honestly have been perfectly fine using old.reddit.com on both mobile and desktop. That said, while I realize it's just his side of the story, the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational (and he apparently has the receipts to back it up), while Reddit comes across as embodying typical corporate greed. On a related note, I think everyone should understand that,…

"Imminently" reasonable and rational? What does that mean?

They mean "eminently" (i.e. "very")

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Post by jll29 »

That's why I would not consider investing energy/money/time in developing an app/application/client of a proprietary third-party platform: they can lock you out any time, sunset the platform (seen with Google Search API) or decide to compete with you (seen with Facebook regarding games).

Open standards, open-source based or decentralized platforms, or your own platform are the way to go (I'm talking here from the dev perspective, not from the end user perspective - but proprietary sites are equally annoying for end users when they get discontinued. Making a one-time exeption to my self-hosting preference, I had a blog hosted at Posterous until Twitter acquired them and they shut down).

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Post by LookAtThatBacon »

duped wrote: post #312

The only thing more embarrassing than Reddit's behavior is that after 18 years and hundreds of millions in funding they can't make an app or website with a better experience than what someone can do in their basement with just API access. Part of me thinks that one of the reasons they want to kill 3rd party apps is because they're embarrassed that they're all better than whatever Reddit has come up in the last decade…

They killed Alien Blue to create the objectively worse Reddit app, despite the aforementioned funding and presumably skilled devs working there.

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Post by CodesInChaos »

duckfruit wrote: post #39

This makes me indescribably sad. Apart from mourning the loss of a fantastic app by an awesome developer, to me it signals the end of a golden era of small indie client only apps. Since the APIs for the likes of reddit, twitter (RIP tweetbot) and others were available for free or a reasonable fee it spawned a whole cottage industry of developers who made a living selling alternate front ends for these services. These…

IMO that era already ended when we transitioned from ICQ, AIM, MSN & co to Whatapp, Signal and the google messenger du jour.
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