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Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by jokethrowaway »

thiht wrote: post #248
crazygringo wrote: post #142

I love Firefox too but this is a really weird post. The OP is clearly having performance issues with Chrome presumably due to extensions interfering or something else. I can guarantee you that Google makes sure Gmail loads at least as fast in Chrome as in Firefox. Chrome is customizable too (panes you can open/close), Chrome extensions are also thriving, and Chrome was the one who invented the "clean look", same as F…

> Firefox invented tabs Wow, that's false. Firefox was NOT the first browser with tabs. From the top of my head, Opera had tabs before Firefox, confirmed by a quick Google search. And apparently Opera wasn't the first browser with tabs either, although it was probably the first browser with a significant market share with tabs. Also tabs were not invented by any browser, other programs used to have tabs before it was…

I think tabs are a terrible ideas (and I have probably more than 200 opened right now).

I think the browser should just make windows and it should be the window manager responsibility to group them in tabs or show them side to side or do whatever it's needed.

Same for code editors.

I often times need to group together tabs from different applications and that's obviously impossible.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by kapep »

cassianoleal wrote: post #262
kapep wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the tendency to freeze, and then say "restart to keep using Firefox" because it updated in the background and can't continue. I never encountered that, neither freezing nor being forced to restart. By default Firefox will only download updates in the background and inform you that the update will be installed if you restart.

That is incorrect. By default, it installs in the background and then displays the behaviour reported by GP. You probably have it set to not install before prompting you.

No, I'm using the default settings of Firefox for Windows. I just installed Firefox in a new Windows VM to confirm this. Automatic installation of updates in the background is enabled by default there. There's also a checkbox to use use a background service for installing updates which is enabled by default, though that's likely a Windows specific feature.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by cassianoleal »

kapep wrote: post #612
cassianoleal wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is incorrect. By default, it installs in the background and then displays the behaviour reported by GP. You probably have it set to not install before prompting you.

No, I'm using the default settings of Firefox for Windows. I just installed Firefox in a new Windows VM to confirm this. Automatic installation of updates in the background is enabled by default there. There's also a checkbox to use use a background service for installing updates which is enabled by default, though that's likely a Windows specific feature.

> Automatic installation of updates in the background is enabled by default there.

I'm confused. That's what I said is the default, and you said it isn't. Now you start by saying "no" to me, and confirming what I had said. Sorry if I've missed something though, I'm really tired right now.

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by hosteur »

cx0der wrote: post #477
hosteur wrote: post #422

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Would love to actually be able to use Firefox Sync. But I refuse when I cannot self host it. It seems it is not actually possible to self host it.

Looks like you can with some extra steps https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs

Yes, I am aware of the project. However, it seems from this issue that self-hosting Firefox Sync is not actually documented or supported: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs/issues/68...

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by LoganDark »

timbit42 wrote: post #610
LoganDark wrote: post #584

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I wish we were on macOS, but unfortunately we only have access to Windows now. So it was on Windows 10 Home 2004. -Emily

I know a number of people using FF on Windows and they all find it works fine. Hmm.

Yes, we're aware that most people don't have this issue.

-Emily

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by lifeinthevoid »

kybernetikos wrote: post #290
lifeinthevoid wrote: post #55

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I frequently have to close all my tabs because the browser has become unresponsive.

This doesn't happen to me. I currently have 60 tabs open, and that's only because I have 'auto close after 1 month' turned on.

thanks for the tip

Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by [deleted] »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #611
thiht wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox invented tabs Wow, that's false. Firefox was NOT the first browser with tabs. From the top of my head, Opera had tabs before Firefox, confirmed by a quick Google search. And apparently Opera wasn't the first browser with tabs either, although it was probably the first browser with a significant market share with tabs. Also tabs were not invented by any browser, other programs used to have tabs before it was…

I think tabs are a terrible ideas (and I have probably more than 200 opened right now). I think the browser should just make windows and it should be the window manager responsibility to group them in tabs or show them side to side or do whatever it's needed. Same for code editors. I often times need to group together tabs from different applications and that's obviously impossible.

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Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now

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Post by kapep »

cassianoleal wrote: post #613
kapep wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I'm using the default settings of Firefox for Windows. I just installed Firefox in a new Windows VM to confirm this. Automatic installation of updates in the background is enabled by default there. There's also a checkbox to use use a background service for installing updates which is enabled by default, though that's likely a Windows specific feature.

> Automatic installation of updates in the background is enabled by default there. I'm confused. That's what I said is the default, and you said it isn't. Now you start by saying "no" to me, and confirming what I had said. Sorry if I've missed something though, I'm really tired right now.

You're right to be confused, sorry. I meant to day "Automatic installation of updates when Firefox is not running is enabled by default there."

I said "no" to "have it set to not install before prompting you" because I use the default settings. Now I'm actually also a bit confused whether you meant "it installs in background [while browsing]" or "it installs in background [while Firefox is not running, using the background update server]"

With the default "when Firefox is not running" setting, the updates should _download_ in the background and then inform you that it will be installed next time you restart.

The freezing and forced restart as reported by pontifier does not sound like default behaviour, it sounds like "when Firefox is not running" is unchecked.

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