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The case for bad coffee (2015)

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Post by mbg721 »

codefreeordie wrote: post #361
doublepg23 wrote: post #334

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I say whisk(e)y of any type lean towards the right, wine is left, steak can be a unifier, but chicken might get you called "soy".

"soy" (or, sometimes, "soi" when used as a prefix) turning into a derogatory name for a liberal among a certain right-wing subculture has a really interesting (to me, at least) history to it. Your list is interesting too -- I'd have claimed steak as a moderately right-wing food. Though it sorta depends. Filets, NY Strips, and Rib-eyes are pretty neutral, but T-Bone and Porterhouse steaks are more right-leaning. Certa…

Avocado ceases to be left if you're Hispanic. Then all bets are off. Also, tofu cooked in any way that people who consume tofu on a regular basis actually eat it is slathered in ground meat, so leftists have something of a conundrum: the desire for shallow "authenticity" is pitted against the desire for hippieish veganism. It's a tough choice.

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Post by wrycoder »

jhugo wrote: post #357
wrycoder wrote: post #176

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Yeah, well, if you want something really bad, order a Starbucks espresso in their paper cup.

Meh, it's not that bad (at least outside the US, I've never been to a Starbucks in the US). I've been to plenty of places where Starbucks is the best espresso you can find.

I think it's the odor from the paper cup and the overall low quality experience compared to using a nice ceramic cup is what bothers me.

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Post by mbg721 »

wrycoder wrote: post #612
jhugo wrote: post #357

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Meh, it's not that bad (at least outside the US, I've never been to a Starbucks in the US). I've been to plenty of places where Starbucks is the best espresso you can find.

I think it's the odor from the paper cup and the overall low quality experience compared to using a nice ceramic cup is what bothers me.

A proper ceramic cup is a good thing.

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Post by eternityforest »

williamtrask wrote: post #512

To everyone replying with their coffee preferences, you may be missing the point. This post isn’t about coffee, it’s about people and experiences in life being more important than products. It’s about a product’s quality being defined not by its substance but by its reminder of things that can’t be purchased. It’s one of the most beautiful posts I’ve seen in a long time. Hope you look beyond the coffee. Edit: Hope I…

I think the drug fans pretty much figured it all out with set and setting. Video games make it really obvious.

No matter what advances or crapifications they do to gaming, we will always say they were better in the 90s, and we will likely never get bored with the rare times everyone actually has time off to play pen and paper games.

DnD and WoD have not had any major technical advances, and everyone is still excited when a new book comes out, stories and friends don't get old.

Sci-fi is not about tech development. It's about how the whole rest of the world responds to the tech development. That's what makes an exciting story.

The tech industry right now has almost no context, most developers really do seem more interested in making the best code they can, as an isolated standalone object, rather than making the code that fits the context as best they can, even if that means giving up on any kind of "Every part is necessary" logical structure.

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Post by kortilla »

goosedragons wrote: post #536
kortilla wrote: post #295

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Perhaps because it’s older? Coffee culture took off post WW2 in Australia with an influx in Italians but it didn’t start to catch on in the US until the 90s.

Wasn't Starbucks founded in the early 70s? It's an extension of the already existing Seattle coffee scene at the time. I think Australia has a fondness for espresso but not coffee. FFS the default drink in a McDonald's breakfast isn't even coffee but hot chocolate. What kind of coffee culture does that?

Keep shifting those goal posts, but you’re still off by 20 years from when it was taking hold in Australia

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Post by jhugo »

wrycoder wrote: post #612
jhugo wrote: post #357

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Meh, it's not that bad (at least outside the US, I've never been to a Starbucks in the US). I've been to plenty of places where Starbucks is the best espresso you can find.

I think it's the odor from the paper cup and the overall low quality experience compared to using a nice ceramic cup is what bothers me.

Most Starbucks (again, possibly a non-US perspective) will make your drink in a ceramic cup/mug if asked. Only the smallest kiosk-type ones can't do it.

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Post by fennecfoxy »

I don't think valuable life/people experiences are correlated with quality of coffee. It's just this guy's own personal experiences that connects bad coffee to his life.

I don't have fond memories of drinking my Father's shitty instant coffee, but I do have fond memories of exploring hip Cafes doing great coffee up and down Queen Street and Karangahape Road in Auckland, New Zealand - university years where I was able to find who I am.

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Post by krolley »

cehrlich wrote: post #471
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Austria has pretty bad coffee. 99.9% of shops sell Julius Meinl from pretty badly maintained espresso machines. And their coffee is usually burnt. Italy has, in general, people who know how to make better coffee as they treat their machines and the procedure with more care. The coffee isn't all that better. Both Lavazza and Illy are robusta blends. Turkish coffee has nothing to do with espresso coffee, or filter coff…

Austrian here. Completely agree that Austrian coffee is mostly terrible (and expensive!). I still like going to the traditional coffee houses, but it's certainly not for the coffee. And yes, the first time I had coffee in America (I think it was from Dunkin Donuts) I couldn't believe how much worse it was than anything I'd ever tasted in my life.

First time I went when I was in America, I ordered I think a medium with sugar. It was this gigantic 1 litre cup of very, very sweet "coffee". Had to throw it away, absolutely undrinkable. I'm very far from a coffee snob and that blew my mind.

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Post by vesinisa »

thesaintlives wrote: post #578
vesinisa wrote: post #509

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> bought 40kg online You are aware that roasted coffee is a perishable product? After roasting, it is at its best for just a few weeks. After just two months it has lost the best of its flavours, but for "bulk" coffee the taste is often considered acceptable for up to 18 months if sealed (at which point most cheap supermarket brands seem to have their "best by" dates.) I am afraid you will find your 40kg of coffee de…

I drink that in a year. No big difference from start to finish.

That's 110g or one full pot of strong drip filter coffee per day. I think I typically drink 60g on a workday and 30g on a weekend day for an average of ~50g/day. I believe you, but you do drink quite a bit of coffee I must say!
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