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Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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[Meta] I wonder if it's just me but, reading through these comments I can imagine myself being the OP and thinking that every comment here is both very insightful and terribly useless simultaneously.

All I can think of reading through all the different perspectives is: "No one can fix you, only you can find the solution to yourself".

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#612

Firstly, stop this rubbish about getting old; with current life expectancies I wouldn't even consider someone middle aged until they are their forties. Old is probably late sixties to seventies. You still have a long way to go :-) Secondly, stop trying to define your life by "achieving". I know this is a difficult one, I'm still (sort of) struggling with this one. Achievements are ephemeral. Only an incredibly tiny m…

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Definitely agree here. When you look at it from a "midlife" angle, let's use some round numbers. Let's say that life is really kicking into high gear as you finish college at ~20yrs old. Make another guess as to the mortality event at ~80yrs. A 60 year diff, so 20+diff = ~50 as the midpoint. You're only halfway there and there is an infinity of experiences and things to learn out there.

As many have surmised, if you are having trouble getting out of bed to face the day, you could be clinically depressed.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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LOL. Getting old is 35. ONLY $500K in savings at 35. Such a sad story. So sorry for you, as most people are lucky to have saved $50K at 35 or even 55! Money has no meaning if you are feeling lost with $500K. Seriously though, my advice would be stop comparing yourself to others. Older or younger, married or single, successful or not, fit or fat. Know thyself. Go on a meditation retreat. You have nothing to lose and n…

Your broader post shows that you actually care to someone soliciting feedback and I know you didn't solicit any yourself but I hope I could add some value. You're trying to give the gift of perspective but the tone is just awful to receive, their feelings are valid whether they has $5, $500k or $5M in the bank, it's just a feeling based on their own goals and perspective. You can build much better relationships and people will listen and respect you more if you lead with empathy. You can deliver a much more powerful message by saying "I know you feel inadequate today, I've felt that way too and it's really tough, but if you put things in perspective you are way ahead of your peers on things that really matter (money, life experiences, etc.)" That's what you were really saying anyway in the first 2 paragraphs.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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You haven't seen anyone smoking in the UK at all? Are you in the north or south east?

No one at social events at all. South East / London. It’s actually quite pleasant these days. Less nicotine all over stuff.

How is meat eating viewed in your social group?

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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For me those feelings are exacerbated by the housing situation, and inflation running hot. In a high cost of living area, there are two tiers of human being: 1 Those who have purchased a home before the insanity, and have a stability around their housing location and costs. 2 Those who are renting. A few scenarios. Let's take the 500K figure and the number 2. Number 2 can't quit their jobs to climb mountains and do y…

The Number 2 can move to a low cost of living place. Plenty of small towns around the world and even in the US where 500k will set you up with housing security and free time to do yoga, clean living, therapy, and child-rearing. Why people don’t consider this option seriously is a different consideration entirely.

Not everyone has fully remote. In fact the largest employers of tech in New York are going the opposite way. I.e. financial services.

In January the business leaders met with the Governor and the Mayor to figure out how to encourage people to come back. It's really happening. Even with hybrid, cheap housing means long commute times.

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Yep this. The average rate of return is 10% so this is someone who can make $50k a year just off this money alone. The real median wage in the USA for workers who worked full time in 2020 was $56k. This person has enough money to nearly replicate the financial success of your average American via a do-nothing secondary income. Your average American retires with only $200k saved up by age 65 as well. $500k is a lot of…

>Also 35 isn't 65. This is the prime age for most business people, artists, writers, etc. This is typically a professional and creative peak that lasts, at least, another decade or so. A person this age often has the drive and vitality of youth but the wisdom of someone older. Its no wonder so many great works are created by people around this age. The age of 35 does represents an important milestone for many artists…

Those are all pre-modern people before the invention of vaccines and antibiotics and who had terrible health and suffered by now preventable childhood diseases. Their 35 is not our 35. Shakespeare, I believe, wrote about joint pain, aging, and losing his memory and mind at 35, which is not typical of a modern 35 year old. Substance abuse and artistry go hand in hand and a lot of these artists were addicts and drunks who badly damaged their brains. Many of them had mercury poisoning from medical treatments of their day and other edge cases not common today.

Not to mention these people were elite global competitors, so if they felt less sharp at 35, that means they were merely just the top 1% instead of being the top .1%. They still were amazing thinkers and producers after 35.

Just off the top of my head, Stanley Kubrick's career peaked with his decade plus long Lolita, Strangelove, 2001, and Clockwork Orange period in the 1960-70s, which was around his 30-40s. Then nearly 20 years after Lolita, well into his 50's he made The Shining, which is considered an important American film, perhaps not as groundbreaking as the others, but something miles ahead of his younger competitors. So even as these people supposedly age out of their peak years, these super high performers are still amazing. The Oscar winner that year? Kramer vs Kramer, a largely forgotten piece of art and "safe pick" that played to social issues of the time. The best screenplay? Breaking Away, a completely forgotten movie. The Shining is still a beloved classic, cultural icon, horror master-class, an iconic actor's defining role, and a movie studied in film school religiously today and for the foreseeable future.

Then almost a decade later in 1987 at age 59, he directed Full Metal Jacket, a lesser work, but considered one of the best anti-war films, arguably stealing or matching the crown from beloved critic favorites like Apocalypse Now and The Deer Hunter, long after the 60s and 70s fad of anti-war movies faded away and Vietnam a now faded memory and during the right-wing, pro-military, pro-interventionist foreign policy Reagan administration. This was a bold and provocative move you'd associate with a younger director trying to get attention and not a man close to retirement. So even "old" Kubrick was competing on a world class level and doing interesting and challenging things.

A genre horror film from a famous director who hasn't delivered a great film in a decade? An anti-war film in the late 80s on the tail of Top Gun? Both of these genres were fads once and decidedly uncool at the time of their release. This on paper sounds almost foolish, but in practice, an artist of his calibre pulled off something very special in both cases.

For modern people, career peaks are mid-30s. The "wisdom" of two hundred old plus composers and poets is a nice toilet read but isn't scientific at all. Science has its own ideas about aging:

The journals Psychological Science, Science Direct, and Harvard claims various mental peaks come later in life. New vocabulary peaks at 67, learning new information at 50, concentrating at 43, learning new faces 32, etc.

https://nextluxury.com/mens-lifestyle-advice/what-age-do-men...

So yes 35 is not only a good age, its the start of a peak, and a 35 year old modern worker has still another two decades of high performance waiting for them.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#619
My faith in Jesus has helped me to find my purpose and reinvigorate my outlook through my late thirties. My local church has provided me an outlet to help serve others and connect with many new friends. If pursuing everything that life has to offer hasn't made you happy, maybe it's time to look into something more eternal?

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Which bike did you buy?

Yes. Get whatever bike fits you. And I love my Tern [1] foldable bicycle. It folds into a bag which I can take anywhere in my car or on the bus or train and bike when I get there. [1] https://www.ternbicycles.com/us/bikes

Funny, I have been looking at Tern too (as well as Riese & Müller). Do you use it in the city as well? Which one do you have? How often do you really fold it up?
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