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AirPods don't “just work”

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Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#611
It is a fashion and convenience tool. Poor sound quality. Comes with the general Bluetooth problems.

The funniest problem I had was on the subway and some bored kid next to me opened and closed the lid back and forth. For some reason this spammed my phone with connectivity messages to the point that I could not use my phone.

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#612

3.5 mm jack Nasty. Yes ;) I'm sorry but it solves these problems and I think most of us have more prominent issues. Bluetooth - and even overpriced Apple products - are usually working well with one connection only. And the headset profile needs to sacrifice quality for voice input. This is to large degrees a question about priority of the user. If you need good or even excellent quality - opt for a good headset and…

Ooof you could never convince me again to tether my head to my phone with a cord. No way!

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#613
Airpod Pros are great for running but that’s it. I’m genuinely surprised to see them used in meetings given battery life and well with my ears they would fall out immediately. I can’t chew or talk without them wiggling out. I tried beats fit pro and were worse.

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#614

3.5 mm jack Nasty. Yes ;) I'm sorry but it solves these problems and I think most of us have more prominent issues. Bluetooth - and even overpriced Apple products - are usually working well with one connection only. And the headset profile needs to sacrifice quality for voice input. This is to large degrees a question about priority of the user. If you need good or even excellent quality - opt for a good headset and…

None of the AirPod annoyances are as bad as having your headphones yanked violently out of your ears when the 3.5mm cable catches on a door handle.

For me, most of the AirPod annoyances individually are worse than cable yanking. Taken together, it's no contest.

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#615

Two suggestions that might help OP with some of these annoyances: - See the "Turn off automatic switching" section of https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212204 , to take manual control of when they switch devices - In System Preferences -> Notifications & Focus you can switch any apps notifications from "Alerts" to "Banners" which will make them go away automatically when ignored.

Unfortunately the nearby headphone notifications are not generated by an app, so you can't use the normal notification banner settings. The only way I've found to disable them is to go to Bluetooth preferences (while the headphones are connected), click options next to the headphones, and change the "Connect to This Mac" dropdown from "Automatically" to "When Last Connected to This Mac".

I'm not satisfied with this solution since I enjoy the automatic switching between devices, but I'm driven crazy by the notifications that pop up on my mac literally as I'm listening to music with those headphones on my iPhone. C'mon Apple - this is all within your ecosystem!

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#616

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Another option is 2.4 GHz wireless Sorry to break it to you but Bluetooth also operates on the 2.4GHz ISM band. Those 2.4GHz dongles you're talking about is basically a custom wireless protocol that doesn't follow Bluetooth or any other open standard or OSI stack but is most likely based on some internal protocol of what the three major chip makers in the 2.4GHz space offer (Texas Instruments, Silicon Labs, Nordic S…

The reason "2.4 GHz wireless" is an option is the very proprietary standard right there, or rather the static pairing coming with it. The absence of Bluetooth connection negotiation/switching/… removes an entire class of bugs and annoyances.

>removes an entire class of bugs and annoyances

Bugs and annoyances which not everyone is having. Stripping out functionality to crush bugs is like removing your stomach to get rid of a stomach ache.

There are cases and classes of hardware where Bluetooth is not ideal and 2.4GHz proprietary standards are used (low latency audio, gaming mice, concert/conference audio. etc.) but those devices already exist on said proprietary standard instead of Bluetooth since they're usually not meant to be paired with changing hosts/clients all the time like most bluetooth devices, so what's your point? Do you want proprietary dongles to ship with every pair of earphones?

2.4GHz proprietary standards are no magic silver bullet either. Sure, compared to Bluetooth they can have the advantage of latency and bandwidth depending on how you implement said custom protocol in firmware, but it's ultimately the same damn overcrowded ISM band shared with the billions of devices everyone has everywhere (Bluetooth phones, smartwatches, headphones, cars, IoT devices, security systems, and, the 400 pound gorilla in the room, motha-friggin-Wi-Fi) . So due to pollution on the 2.4GHz spectrum you'll end up with potentially similar issues like Bluetooth devices except now you have a proprietary standard to deal with.

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#618
I seem to experience troubles like that with any kind of Bluetooth devices. E.g., sometimes they don't connect or disconnect or lag. At this point, I am suspicious of the entire Bluetooth technology. The same is with WiFi actually: it does work well most of the time but sometimes it does not (for whatever reasons, bugs? changes in environment?).

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beats... how? Bandwidth? Packet loss? Latency? One, that wifi bandwidth is being shared by everyone around you. Ideally, you'll only have about 4 peers for your given hotspot, but most companies are a bit more... frugal... than that. Two, that WiFi is going through those same routers. Just sayin'.

Bandwidth is typically what I’ve measured. Never had a noticeable issue with packet loss. Or latency. Edit: the difference between my work laptop (wireless) and my gaming machine (wired) in my office is a mere 5ms to the same external server. That’s in the “meh” territory for me. Currently I have five APs inside and outside my house, and they’re averaging about 5-6 clients per AP. The really network intensive stuff i…

Fair enough.

With as important as live calls have been for work, it was worth it to get a wired adapter to avoid the occasional latency spikes and to limit the packet round trip time. It is legitimately noticeable to me when I'm on wifi and not wired (I keep both active for simplicity's sake).

Anker offers a nice one that was only about $40, and provides both gigabit ethernet (1000baseT (or an incredible fake thereof)) and some USB-A connections as well.

Re: AirPods don't “just work”

#620

I generally enjoy my AirPods. They are occasionally quirky, but most of the time they really do “just work” for me. The annoyances are annoying when they happen, though. The strangest part is that the annoyances aren’t getting any better over time. At first I assumed that they were growing pains of an early product launch. Yet now we’re years into the AirPods experience and they continue to be just as quirky as when…

Extend that to AirPods Pro. My right ear cup crashes periodically - then I can only hear out of the left side until the watchdog timer engages and nukes the left cup too. I frequently have to reset it by holding down the buttons for 10 seconds in order to get it to connect to anything. It frequently disconnects and refuses to reconnect if I take off my mask out from under it. It stops detecting my head occasionally. An iOS bug probably, but I can't change the Mic mode anymore when on calls - it just shows me them menu options but I can't tap any of them. And the ear cups started to smell, lol, but there's no clear way to actually clean them due to their, well, magnets. I bike to work and have to dry them when I arrive because sweat builds up under the cups. They're also just too big to fit into anything practical, so I end up just carrying them around in one hand.

All in all, they're fine, but they most certainly do not just work for me, and they're not a $600 product IMO.

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