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I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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> Mike Judge is a genius. He really is. Any one of his properties would prove that by itself. Having such keen insights into disparate facets of humanity tells me that he just gets humans on a level not many other people do. Hopefully that doesn’t sound too flowery and pretentious.

I think he nails satire and weirdness of humans well, similar to apatow, but I think he falls flat on the more emotional or positive aspects of humanity. Not to say he’s not a master of his craft, and king of the hill especially had tender moments, but maybe that’s just not what he’s interested in

He makes comedy, not drama?

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Tells a lot about company politics. Often times I'm left wondering how come capitalism still survives. Actually, writing this down made me think that big companies (like the FAANG mostly are) are quite anti-capitalistic. I'm not sure how to call them, because sure as hell they're not socialist or anything of the sorts, but it's reasonably clear that many of the theoretical capitalistic principles that many of us know…

You might like Ronald Coase's "The Nature of the Firm". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_the_firm A business is a socialist command economy embedded in a market economy, which has odd boundary effects at the interfaces.

Command economies are not necessarily socialist. In particular, businesses really don't fit the definition of socialism.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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> "My biggest gripe is that Leetcode is systematically favoring candidates who have months of free time to memorize arbitrary logic puzzles. It makes me sad for the less privileged candidates who might be working a job while also trying to break into the IT field." I told google that this style of interviewing is discriminatory, especially towards people with families, or other commitments. Never got another call for…

why do you want to work for Amazon and Google when there are so many great companies that would appreciate you every day (and pay you more)

I have never had the luck (I guess) to run across a company that is both great to work at and pays well.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Just in general this is extremely rude to do as an interviewer. I remember interviewing at Google a few years ago and the interviewer laughed at me when I asked her if they used Kotlin in the mobile app that they were hiring for. Kotlin was pretty standard at the time in most 3rd party apps and nowadays Google never shuts up about it in their dev talks, but back then I guess it was so unlikely that Google itself woul…

There are several reasons that might be funny. Assuming that funny question = stupid question is going to result in you being offended quite frequently. It's google, the interviewer probably thought it was funny because what you just asked would be logical , but because of insert crazy bureaucratic reason here they can't. Most interviewers are nice people. Assuming good intent when they laugh is going to be the right…

I think it's nice to be chatty and relaxed in an interview, but a lot of people would think that laughing at a question crosses a line, unless they let you in on the joke. Like, "Do you use Kotlin?" => "Hahahaha! No. Funny thing is, earlier today we decided to rewrite the next major version in Kotlin!"

I don't take offence easily but honestly if there wasn't an explanation for laughter I would straight up ask "What's so funny?".

Imagine how a Russian candidate would feel, when it's culturally "odd" to smile for no apparent reason?

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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I’ve heard it described as: “You can work on interesting problems, have a great work-life balance, or get paid really well, but you can only select two.”

I would like "interesting problems" + "great work-life balance". Any recommendations on places these days? Don't seem to exist anymore, sadly.

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Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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why do you want to work for Amazon and Google when there are so many great companies that would appreciate you every day (and pay you more)

I have never had the luck (I guess) to run across a company that is both great to work at and pays well.

If they're great to work at, they don't have to pay top dollar to attract and (more importantly) retain people.

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I’ve heard it described as: “You can work on interesting problems, have a great work-life balance, or get paid really well, but you can only select two.”

I would like "interesting problems" + "great work-life balance". Any recommendations on places these days? Don't seem to exist anymore, sadly.

Government. Academia. Speaking from experience. :). You won't get rich, but you won't starve either. And your pension might not be a complete disaster.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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I told one that I am a human being, not a circus animal here to do tricks, and if they want me to do live coding, they'd have to pay me for my time. Same result as you: The recruiters stopped bothering me.

I'm not a huge fan of coding tests, but as a hiring manager, we do them during my team's interviews. I'm not looking for a leetcoder. But I've had to reject candidates who otherwise seemed really strong, but then it turns out that they completely struggled with every aspect of a simple python question.

I've probably been involved with 500 interviews at this point, primarily as a technical screener. If a candidate is applying for a job that requires working with code in some capacity, it would be foolish not to test and quantify those skills. Someone that muddles through but has fun and learns something during a tough interview is more likely to progress through the pipeline than an "expert" with a chip on their shoulder. I've witnessed a handful of "highly experienced" candidates make it to the onsite interview stage and then epically botch it purely with their attitude when asked to actually solve a problem within a set of constraints (isn't that what engineering is?) In almost all those cases, there were subtle red flags the resume or earlier round of interviews, and the interview question was intentionally designed to dig into those flags.

The difference is that a candidate with a good attitude and growth potential is usually worth hiring even if they're not a fit for the role they applied for, and so the hiring manager will get creative trying to make something work.

Perhaps some of the well known tech companies don't put the same level of care into their interview pipelines, and then folk become jaded and irrational? Does anyone remember that Office episode where Ray Romano interviews for the manager position and talks about how all his old coworkers are jerks while eating a sandwich out of his briefcase?

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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No. There are companies where you can have a life, but they are boring. And there are companies that pay you more, but there’s always a catch. In my long resume consisting of Startups to SV Giants, not one company paid you a lot to do less work.

I’ve heard it described as: “You can work on interesting problems, have a great work-life balance, or get paid really well, but you can only select two.”

Totally my life. I keep the middle one fixed, and then see-saw on the other two!

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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> When you operate at this type of scale, centralization is the enemy of efficiency. This is a paradox. In order to be efficient on a macro level, it requires being (very) inefficient at the micro level. Counterexample: amazon if every team is reinventing square wheels, they are adding a lot of inefficiencies which worsens the situation at macro level.

But if every team has to wait for planning from a centralized decision maker who doesn't have all the context, they won't get any important work done as well. Or they loose the motivation that comes with owning services yourself. A paradox, as the author wrote.

Startups are also duplicating the work of each other, and succeed against big companies because this makes them more agile. I always thought that seeing internal orgs as startups was the master stroke of Amazon and the reason for its many product successes -- but it has the downsides described in the article.

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