The notch doesn't look annoying on the Mac as that area is used by the menu bar anyway. However, I don't understand the reason for it since it doesn't have faceid. Why not just go for a punch hole design? What else is in that notch??
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#612Maybe they added the notch so that when they remove it next year people will have to dish out another 2-5k to get the non-notch version. Specially given that there were a lot rumors that iPhone was going to get rid of its notch this year. Now it's likely to happen next year.
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#613I'm very curious to see how the 64GB of RAM GPU performs with deep learning models fine-tuning. It might be impressive.
Do people really train locally? I'd have thought the field moved to aws or some other hpc by now. Seems like a waste buying such a nice laptop to just melt and abuse it when you can abuse amazon's hardware instead. The battery won't be happy being discharged every day since it seems like in my experience macbooks don't bypass the battery when on ac power unless you start the computer up with the batty unplugged (not so easy on newer computers)
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#614Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
Damn, I liked the touchbar :-( I think that Apple's biggest mistake is not making it more obvious that the bar is editable in all programs. It becomes pretty useful when you can keep only the functions that you use the most.
As someone who bought a new MBP 2 years ago, and never wanted a TB, why do you like it? What's the use case? In my situation, I run in clamshell mode, connected to a large 4K monitor 90% of the time, so I can't even touch it most of the time, but I never found a use for it that wasn't inferior than the function keys it replaced.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#615HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
I have never owned a Mac anything but the addition of an SD card slot is making this seem very attractive to me. Conversely the latest Surface Pro eliminated its little hidden microSD card reader, seems inexcusable for a device marketed as "Pro" and has really put a damper on my desire to upgrade.
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#616I know it will be an unpopular opinion here, but bringing back the HDMI and SD card port is making the macbook much thicker and will eat up some space than can be used by battery instead, all that for ports I will never use. I wish there was another option without these ports.
The 16" is already built to maximum battery capacity by law
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#617HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
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#618I really hate the feet. Just the bottom half of the form factor looks like they're going back to 2006 design.
Very ugly but luckily you don't look at that part much on a laptop. Especially on macs, the rubber feet just fall off and the case ends up scratched and marred up overtime.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#619HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
The thickness argument (i.e., excuse) came from Apple, not users. They did the same with the 3.5mm audio jack on phones, claiming they needed the space to make things thinner. Meanwhile, phones like the LG V35 were thinner with the same IP rating but still had an audio jack.
They didn't exactly say they needed the space "to make things thinner". They needed the space for other things like the new generation Taptic engine on iPhone 7 (which was the first phone without a headphone jack, and was also the same thickness as the 6 and 6s).
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#620Using the m1 air for almost a year now I can't imagine going to another laptop with a fan. Doesn't matter what I ever do there is never any noise. I'm sure the fan in the Pro models almost never come on and you could also install something to limit max cpu frequency before fan is turned on, but having no fan is the next level.