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Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by blindmute »

valeness wrote: post #395
Jxl180 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the Dave Chappelle show were free but you chose to donate your money to Dave Chappelle anyway, yes, you're a sucker.

Twitch streams aren't free though. If nobody paid then they wouldn't exist. It's just a voluntaryist model. Those that pay, do, those that can't or don't want to, don't. So I'm not a sucker for choosing to fund a form of entertainment I find valuable. I treat museums the same way. When I was young and poor my parents didn't pay to get in since it was optional. But now that I'm older and I make good money, I donate ex…

Even if no one paid, they would easily exist through ads and sponsorships. Paying a rich person for something free is just bad money management no matter how you rationalize it to yourself.

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Post by legionlegion »

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #495
anonymouse008 wrote: post #489

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[potentially off topic] > if you're not ready to write extensive reports.. it's probably 75% of the job Do you happen to have a system for building these out? As a techie, I imagine you've tried something like text-expander or similar... but I see a lot of people unsatisfied that they end up building their own tools.

Yes, We have a few tools that fill in based on scan data, with typical points of data, but a lot of what we're doing requires it's presented in a few different perspectives. Generally we provide a couple reports, the Highly Technical (with notes, logs of actions, etc. This can be hundreds of pages, but it's meant to be a reference for the engineering teams fixing what we found. We also sometimes provide full screen c…

Can I work for you? Computer science background, fluent in multiple languages. I can bring you more clients and also perform pentesting

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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by gyata97 »

epse wrote: post #557
_hilro wrote: post #509

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Nobody is putting production databases in to commit history. At the size of twitch, there's also no way any application dev has access to production. > credentials like a password for a database is (even more common). ??? What cowboy outfit is putting things which grant access to production customer data in to git?

Twitch, it seems https://sizeof.cat/post/twitch-leaks/#secrets-exposed

Lol at the image when you don’t open in incognito

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Post by albwe123 »

fc373745 wrote: post #20

>the leak was intended to “foster more disruption and competition in the online video streaming space” because “their community is a disgusting toxic cesspool”. the irony in that it was leaked to 4chan

lol they got leaked lmfao

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Post by irae »

irae wrote: post #317
sydthrowaway wrote: post #286

Couldn't help but contrast this to another item on the front page.. the irony of video game streamers making many times more than the lifetime earnings of Nobel Prize winners :)

Sports and Entertainment has always been a way to leap frog hard work. I am not saying at all it is not deserved. I am quite ok with them earning millions. But it does make a lot of us pull this comparison, both in achievements for humanity and in effort spent in their endeavors. I personally never played or wish to play the fame lottery, I prefer the hard work path.

Many comments saying sports and streaming is hard work. Well, no doubt it is. Many pulling 12h or 16h work days. I agree.

Nevertheless, anyone that manage to have 5+ millions USD in property and savings before they are 30 got to a level of wealth in 10 years that 90% of people will not achieve in a lifetime.

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Post by lopis »

ryandrake wrote: post #232
lopis wrote: post #185

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What do you mean? You think all coders are security engineers? All code has dependencies, often dozens of them. You might just need a single vulnerability in a trusted third party library to allow this to happen. These are humans creating these products. I would say that SPECIALLY because of the size of these products, vulnerabilities are inevitable.

> What do you mean? You think all coders are security engineers? Now, imagine using that argument when a bridge falls down. "What do you mean? You think all the bridge builders were safety engineers? Bridge components rely on different dependencies, often dozens at the same time. You just need one point of failure and boom, it collapses. These are humans creating these bridges. I would say that SPECIALLY because of t…

But it's still true that each individual contractor in a bridge project is not a bridge integrity engineer. I was replying to GP who said

> What all these coders do all day?

Implying that all coders have to care about everything in their stack. Putting the blame of UX devs or data engineers for the platform to be offline doesn't make any sense. Even hiring more platform engineers doesn't necessarily fix this issue. Like when building a bridge, you avoid this problem with good architecture.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by valeness »

blindmute wrote: post #611
valeness wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitch streams aren't free though. If nobody paid then they wouldn't exist. It's just a voluntaryist model. Those that pay, do, those that can't or don't want to, don't. So I'm not a sucker for choosing to fund a form of entertainment I find valuable. I treat museums the same way. When I was young and poor my parents didn't pay to get in since it was optional. But now that I'm older and I make good money, I donate ex…

Even if no one paid, they would easily exist through ads and sponsorships. Paying a rich person for something free is just bad money management no matter how you rationalize it to yourself.

Do you think the same way with movies? Many movies could probably survive on ad placement revenue alone. Why do you pay to go to the movies? Do you think the same way with buying a laptop? I'm sure you could fund a laptop with ad and bloatware placement, so why do you pay bill gates for a surface book?

If nobody paid to go to the movies, then nobody would want to advertise in those movies, those movies would lose their sponsorships, and stop being made. If everybody unsubbed from netflix right now they would stop funding original content, even though the content they make has ad placements. Why even ask netflix for money if you can just make a wildly successful tv show with ad placements and release it for free?

Why should you pay to go to a football game? Why should you pay to watch a football game? All the players have sponsors. They're all millionaires. Why did our parents pay for cable? Cable had ads, all the actors were millionaires, the cable company owners were millionaires, the production studios were millionaires. You're saying practically everyone who bought cable in the 1990s-2000s was bad with their money because the actors were millionaires and had ad sponsrships? Give me a break.

I just think it's incredibly disingenuous that because someone is leveraging a SLIGHTLY different monetization model that allows for free consumption, that anyone who pays for it is bad with their money. Maybe if you condemned ALL luxury spending with the same energy I could see you're at least being consistent. But this is just more irrational disdain for the new wave of media consumption.

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