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Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by AussieWog93 »

tomjen3 wrote: post #494
o_m wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is stopping MasterCard and Visa from banning Coinbase and others if this happens

They can't ban everything, since at the extremis you could buy crypto from eBay sellers. But in the long run you are right: to avoid MasterCard and Visa we should move everything to crypto. It is the only way to control our own destiny.

>They can't ban everything, since at the extremis you could buy crypto from eBay sellers.

This is against eBay's policies. All items sold through their site must be delivered physically. If you type "bitcoin" in today you'll only get hardware or novelties, not the coins themselves.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by decebalus1 »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #328
taylodl wrote: post #257

Sadly I know girls who are using OnlyFans to keep a roof over their heads and stay out of abusive relationships. Whether we like what they're doing to make money OnlyFans was providing them a much-needed revenue stream. Now that's being taken away from them by the morality police who won't be affected by the consequences of their own decisions.

With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society. I get that it's a de facto situation for some, but let's not drop the onus on "morality police", payment processors, and OnlyFans for a massive societal failure to help vulnerable people. You could take that argument as far as you want (prostitution, drug sales, etc). There is so…

> With all due respect, the fact that anyone is forced into porn to get housing be safe from abusive partners is the indictment of a society.

with all due respect, most people are 'forced' into some sort of labor to get housing or escape abusive partners. It's the way society is built. If it's sex work or not, that's a different story but not by much. Work is work.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by andy_ppp »

adamcharnock wrote: post #607
andy_ppp wrote: post #568

Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

Edit: as has been pointed out, I’ve misrepresented the parent comment. It’s late here, my apologies. There seem to be a lot of assumptions here that I don’t agree with. So perhaps this comment isn’t for me, in which case feel free to ignore the following. People seem to add so many values into the mix when it comes to sex work. If these old lonely people paid carers to visit them at home, would that be somehow differ…

1. I didn’t say old, maybe you misread?

2. I think I’m suggesting some men (the most obsessive and biggest spenders?) would use onlyfans instead of having a relationship. I’m not saying it’s right that a proportion of men become obsessive but it happens right?

3. I’d say a lot of men don’t make rational choices about sex.

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Post by Sargos »

drenvuk wrote: post #160

Payment processors need to be regulated in a way to prevent this stuff from happening. This is financial censorship for legal activities.

I'm not sure the government has a problem with this as they just passed FOSTA-SESTA which nearly makes porn illegal.

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Post by TameAntelope »

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330
yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

I find it utterly fascinating that Reddit is able to maintain such a huge porn collection with relatively little attention. I wish I knew what percentage of submissions were in NSFW subreddits, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the majority.

Maybe it's because they're not trying to make money off of it? I don't think they run ads on NSFW subreddits.

I wonder if there's a market for something like how strip clubs operate -- where the artist pays OnlyFans to stream there, and then the artist collects their income some other way (e.g. Patreon, or just direct cash equivalents). That could in theory keep OnlyFans good with their payment processors, while still keeping this revenue stream at least somewhat open.

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Post by commandlinefan »

tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330
yholio wrote: post #279

I can understand the business reasons for cleaning up the OnlyFans brand. But I can't, for the life of me, understand why they are killing a cash cow instead of spining it off into a side business. Clone the full experience on a dedicated site, OnlyFantasy.com, duplicate the whole userbase, and give a simple warning that I can find my favorite stars on another site. In time, the user bases will diverge naturally depe…

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

> It'll be left to whoever can operate beyond those constraints

Maybe by accelerating adoption and normalization of cryptocurrency.

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Post by dboreham »

biztos wrote: post #586
tmp_anon_22 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the payment processors will bark at the porn site. Move to a more expensive processor for that site only, pay 5%, 10% fee, it doesn't really matter, it's free money. If PH is having trouble processing any form of credit card, a smaller company will have no chance at all. We're seeing a sterilization of legitimate porn on the internet, done by legitimate tax paying western companies. It'll be left to whoever ca…

It really seems weird to me that with all the countries that allow various forms of sex work, payment processing is still such a bottleneck. As I understand it, independent providers doing 100% legal work in their countries live in terror of their payments being cut off due to the factors mentioned above. Where is the CoinBase of legal erotica?

That was "SpankChain", I believe.

Re: OnlyFans to block sexually explicit videos starting in October

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Post by jfup »

adamcharnock wrote: post #607
andy_ppp wrote: post #568

Does anyone else here feel the Onlyfans phenomenon is just exploiting sad lonely men who’d be better off leaving the house, doing some exercise and trying to eat healthier and build their IRL social networks? This whole cam-girls making a fortune this way seems somehow more dishonest than normal porn to me, maybe because it’s about these guys (who can never have relationships with these women) building a personal and…

Edit: as has been pointed out, I’ve misrepresented the parent comment. It’s late here, my apologies. There seem to be a lot of assumptions here that I don’t agree with. So perhaps this comment isn’t for me, in which case feel free to ignore the following. People seem to add so many values into the mix when it comes to sex work. If these old lonely people paid carers to visit them at home, would that be somehow differ…

>where does being able to “have” someone figure into any of this?

The GP said "have relationships with these women", not "have these women".

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