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1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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so getting to know how to do things by yourself is a waste of time?

I know exactly how to do it, I've tried out what has been described above. I've got a lab for stuff I want to tinker with, but a password manager is seen as an "essential service" to me like e-mail and music. I'd much prefer to pay a bit per month and have a team of professionals deal with it if the servers go down. If at the end of the day my home server breaks and I want to get on and watch Amazon Prime/Netflix/wha…

i thought most users were talking about personal use here?

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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With respect, I disagree with your conclusion about a SwiftUI version causing hassle for customers. Every time I use an Electron app, I get the distinct feeling that its developers are prioritizing their experience over my own. We the users subsidize faster development cycles with wasted CPU and memory, laggy interfaces, and strange, non-native UX.

Thank you for letting me know your concerns. Just to clarify: when I said that a SwiftUI version would cause hassle for customers, I was referring to how releasing two separate versions of our app - one in Electron, and one in SwiftUI - would be confusing for non-technical users. I should have phrased that better, my bad.

But why release the Electron App for Mac at all if you have a perfectly good Swift UI-based Mac app?

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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I love that KeePass works with pretty much whatever sync service you prefer. Personally, I use it with Google Drive and it even works with Android/iOS clients. However, would definitely recommend KeePassXC for desktop.

The browser integration is... Crap though especially compared to 1Password. Is there even a Safari integration?

Dev here.. Thanks for the feedback. Please note that you're comparing a big product to a small open source software :) Of course would like to know how to make the extension better, so if you want to help us, make an issue to GitHub, thanks. Safari integration is coming eventually.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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> I use my Apple Watch to unlock 1Password in my browser. Can you point me to where this gets set up? I'd love to do this.

1. Open 1Password Mac app 2. Go to Preferences > Security > Apple Watch (there's also option to enable Touch ID) and enable it Make sure you have your browser 1Password plugin updated to the latest version. When you click on the locked 1Password icon in the browser, you get the "Double click to approve" alert on your Apple Watch. You double click the side button on your watch and 1Password in your browser is now unlo…

Perfect - thank you! I don't know how I missed this.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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And has zero native syncing functionality being presented by 1Password across every platform on the planet.

psst, for many of us 1password of old not having any native syncing functionality WAS A FEATURE.

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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As others have said, i much prefer to keep my password vault and hosting of it separate.

Being forced into a 1P subscription feels like a downgrade to me. I've been a faithful customer for years, and have used iCloud synchronization for years as well. My entire household uses the app (through family sharing).

Self hosting it is not an option for me (i know how to, and that's why it's off the table), and purchasing a $5/month subscription feels like it's overpriced for what it delivers. I can get 10 months worth of Family365 subscription for what 1P is asking for a year, and that gives me 6 accounts with 1TB storage each and the entire Office suite.

The thing that seems to annoy people the most doesn't bother me one bit though. If it works i don't care if it's electron or not.

I'm instead evaulating Secrets[1] as a replacement. It requires a $20 in-app purchase to unlock full functionality, but even with 4 people buying it, it's still only 1,5 years of 1P service. For now i will try to get the kids to use iCloud Keychain instead.

As for "what's the rush". 1P7 will receive updates for now, until it doesn't, and at some point an update to MacOS or iOS will make it stop working, at which point i will have lost access to my passwords. I much prefer to be in control of when that happens :)

[1] https://outercorner.com/secrets-ios/

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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I'm perfectly happy with paying a subscription, and think $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. What I'm not happy with is the possibility of password access being limited or sync breaking if 1Password servers go down. At least with Dropbox (iCloud, wifi) sync, I have full control over the local vault file. Ultimately, it might be mostly about ownership and choice for me.

> $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. I’m glad you find it affordable but these nickle and dime things add up. Especially when the product fits into $0 software so $4.99 is infinitely higher than $0. I feel like these small, “affordable,” services are just whittling away the Unix philosophy of do one small thing well. Layering on unnecessary crap just to charge a fee eventually comes home to roost. Also, password…

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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I'm perfectly happy with paying a subscription, and think $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. What I'm not happy with is the possibility of password access being limited or sync breaking if 1Password servers go down. At least with Dropbox (iCloud, wifi) sync, I have full control over the local vault file. Ultimately, it might be mostly about ownership and choice for me.

> $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. I’m glad you find it affordable but these nickle and dime things add up. Especially when the product fits into $0 software so $4.99 is infinitely higher than $0. I feel like these small, “affordable,” services are just whittling away the Unix philosophy of do one small thing well. Layering on unnecessary crap just to charge a fee eventually comes home to roost. Also, password…

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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And you can cancel and subscribe at a moments notice, unlike cable contracts and having to use cable boxes and equipment rental fees. And you can watch whenever, wherever you want. Sounds like a great improvement to me. You also do not have to pay for 2 to 5 streaming services. You can choose 1, or 2, or however many you want.

> You can choose 1, or 2, or however many you want. That way you could also "choose" not to pay for cable. But the reality is that if you want to watch all the latest popular shows and movies you have to pay for 4-5 streaming services.

That is generally how the world works. You pay more for more stuff.

Not having to pay for ESPN if you do not care about ESPN is an improvement though.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…

I come at it from a slightly different angle. I got in when it was syncing via Dropbox and iCloud, and it worked perfectly fine. The switch to a subscription service is a forced downgrade for me; it's putting functionality I already have behind a subscription. This is particularly an issue since the old versions (versions I paid for, mind you) are slowly going away (typically as a recompilation and submission is requ…

same here this is when i switched to bitwarden and haven't looked back!
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