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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by virgulino » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

BoorishBears wrote: post #607

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Your link shows only Intel >= 8th gen supported. This link says TPM 2.0 minimum: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica... And no 1st gen AMD Ryzen supported: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

You really need to read before you comment. Your second link is literally the first thing I replied to in this thread. It's for OEMs making new devices. And straight from my last comment: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windo... > *devices that meet the soft floor will receive a notification that upgrade is not advised*. > *Security: TPM Version >= 1.2 and SecureBootCapable = True* Are you just…

Read this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27626756

Click here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Then follow the "compatible 64-bit processor" link. You will land exactly there.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by wingworks » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 3:53 AM UTC

naikrovek wrote: post #581

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> 1. Old control panels: Drivers may overlay or modify the window, so you can't really change them (don't forget: Windows supports many obscure devices like DAWs and heavy machinery, many things Linux users have never even considered connecting to a PC, and all of those have custom drivers from the device manufacturer that Microsoft doesn't control) The bigger issue is that a fuckload of native Windows settings can o…

they're migrating things to Settings over time. do people not know this?

no, I didn't. I just assumed they were slow to do the migration.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Wowfunhappy » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:01 AM UTC

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

Couldn’t you use Clover? OS X doesn’t have BIOS compatibility either, which is a major reason Clover exists.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by mekster » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:04 AM UTC

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I need a local account. I set up my PC with multiple profiles. I start with a local admin account and then I add Microsoft accounts for my day-to-day work. I have one profile logged in to my personal Microsoft account. Another is logged in to an Office 365 account that belongs to someone I do work for. Etc.. Why is MS encouraging people to have one giant admin account with a work or school account connected? That's s…

Windows professional for professionals. Windows home for grandparents. Always has been this way. I'm ok with that. The tiers of OS have different requirements and features. Expected.

So where do average users fit in? It's funny people are led to believe they need pro version just because.

I've been using Home version since Windows ME and it's being fine.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by chrismorgan » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:20 AM UTC

BoorishBears wrote: post #482

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CPU requirements are also significantly stiffened up. Intel Core i8 or newer or AMD Ryzen 2 or newer. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/min...

Incredibly misleading statement. You just linked to a list of processors for starting development of a new embedded Windows device. 99.9999% of people will never have to concern themselves with this. Microsoft would never limit support to CPUs released a few years ago.

They’re saying TPM 2.0 is required. If so, many Windows systems from before 2017 won’t be supported, and even some Windows systems since then may have it disabled in the BIOS/UEFI settings, and many brand new built-from-parts systems may lack a needed chip. See https://mspoweruser.com/turns-out-windows-11-does-not-need-t... for some review of the situation (which seems to be “official docs say 2.0 is recommended but actually only 1.2 is required, but the app is currently enforcing 2.0”).

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by hparadiz » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:25 AM UTC

literallyaduck wrote: post #288

Every time this happens someone says fuck it and installs Linux. After two weeks some of them come back, but the Linux market share grows. I want an OS that stays current on security patches, attempts to be as unobtrusive as possible, allows for Desktop Environment customization but has sane defaults. I don't want special integrations. The OS should follow single responsibility and defer special functionality to app…

I've been running Gentoo since March 2020. The mediacenter is still running Winblows. That's about it.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by calf » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:28 AM UTC

_coveredInBees wrote: post #579

kaptain wrote: post #575

I tried switching to Windows about 2 years ago from macOS. I found that the lack of a good replacement for Preview was a real deal breaker for me. I tried a lot of different things to make it work. It wasn't the only thing, but the fact that I spent so much time finding a PDF viewer/light-editor that didn't have adware, was free, and had enough functionality was difficult (in my case I was unsuccessful) on Windows. H…

I'm the opposite. I can't believe that Finder is the best Apple can do for a file explorer. It is an absolute abomination and after 4 years of using my MBP I still hate it passionately every time I have to use it. I agree that preview is nice, as is Spotlight. But for me, OSX is getting too locked down at this point as a "power user". The sandbox makes apps take obscenely long to open like as if I've been teleported…

What's wrong with the Finder? I don't have any complex requirements beyond an occasional regex file renaming, but I'm curious to know what file manager capabilities Mac users are missing out on.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Exuma » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:56 AM UTC

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #594

_coveredInBees wrote: post #579

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I'm the opposite. I can't believe that Finder is the best Apple can do for a file explorer. It is an absolute abomination and after 4 years of using my MBP I still hate it passionately every time I have to use it. I agree that preview is nice, as is Spotlight. But for me, OSX is getting too locked down at this point as a "power user". The sandbox makes apps take obscenely long to open like as if I've been teleported…

> I'm the opposite. I can't believe that Finder is the best Apple can do for a file explorer. It is an absolute abomination and after 4 years of using my MBP I still hate it passionately every time I have to use it. Brother, I feel you. I hate finder so much I operate almost exclusively from the command line in os x.

What don't you like about it?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by BoorishBears » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:59 AM UTC

virgulino wrote: post #611

BoorishBears wrote: post #607

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You really need to read before you comment. Your second link is literally the first thing I replied to in this thread. It's for OEMs making new devices. And straight from my last comment: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windo... > *devices that meet the soft floor will receive a notification that upgrade is not advised*. > *Security: TPM Version >= 1.2 and SecureBootCapable = True* Are you just…

Read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27626756 Click here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica... Then follow the "compatible 64-bit processor" link. You will land exactly there.

> Are you just being willfully ignorant of the fact that this is clearly the more accurate page since it breaks down the requirements into two sets, or...

Alright, you've clearly made your choice.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by viraptor » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

cercatrova wrote: post #355

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If its anything like windows 10 was you could just never activate the license and nothing practically would be different, unless you wanted desktop backgrounds I believe. I barely notice the watermark anyhow telling me to activate windows for the last few years.

Or just get a Windows keygen/updater like KMSpico.

I've never heard of that one before, but it must be one of the most squatted domain phrases. There's like 20 versions just in top results and I could not figure out which one is official and which one just installs malware...