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Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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> I'm not a big fan of just-make-a-tarball-of-everything-and-upload-it-to-the-cloud backup methodology, I prefer something a bit more incremental. pretty much a textbook use-case for zfs with some kind of snapshot-rolling utility. Snap every hour, send backups once a day, prune your backups according to some timetable. Transfer as incrementals against the previous stored snapshot. Plus you get great data integrity ch…

>"but linus said..." Yes i still don't understand him, a he calls himself a "filesystem guy". Also i don't understand that no one ever mentions NILFS2.

with all due respect here - I've never heard of it either, and that's not what you want with a filesystem.

The draw of ZFS is that it's the log-structured filesystem with 10 zillionty hours of production experience that says that it works. And that's why BTRFS is not a direct substitute either. Or Hammer2. There are lots of things that could be cool, the question is are you willing to run them in production.

There is a first-mover advantage in filesystems (that occupy a given design and provide a given set of capabilities). At some point a winner sucks most of the oxygen out of the atmosphere here. There is maybe space for a second place winner (btrfs), there isn't a spot for a fourth-place winner.

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you need that large machines, and are willing to use reserved instances, you'd go with dedis on OVH instead of VMs. Which is significantly cheaper

OVH dedicated instances start at about the size of an a1.metal instance, which is ~30% more than the comparable OVH instance, but you can get discounts in various ways. Or you could use t4g.2xlarge, which is cheaper. There's no situation where OVH is 3x cheaper (I mean maybe if bandwidth is your thing, but IDK).

I'm curious how you make your comparisons. Here is mine:

AWS a1.metal: $293 per month for 16 ARM cores, 16GB memory

OVH Rise-4 [1]: $131 per month for 16 Intel Xeon cores, 128GB memory, 500Mbit/s

And the ARM CPUs on the AWS instances are nowhere near the intel cores here, so maybe this configuration is comparable:

OVH Rise-APAC [2]: $57 per month for 4 Intel Xeon cores, 32GB memory

[1] https://www.ovhcloud.com/fr/bare-metal/rise/rise-4/

[2] https://www.ovhcloud.com/fr/bare-metal/rise/rise-apac/

Re: Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building

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The classic "lp0 on fire" error message comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire Really though, I feel truly awful for anyone affected by this. The post recommends implementing a disaster recovery plan. The truth is that most people don't have one. So, let's use this post to talk about Disaster Recovery Plans! Mine: I have 5 servers at OVH (not at SBG) and they all back up to Amazon S3 or Backblaze B2…

I'm at OVH as well (in the BHS datacenter, fortunately). I run my entire production system on one beefy machine. The apps and database are replicated to a backup machine hosted with Hetzner (in their Germany datacenter). I also run a tiny VM at OVH which proxies all traffic to Hetzner. I use a failover IP to point at the big rig at OVH. If the main machine fails, I move the failover IP to the VM, which sends all traf…

Yet another cheer for Hetzner!
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