I like the concept and promise of App stores, but over time I am less and less convinced there is any company that can competently run one with any sort of consistency.
Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
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Apple wrote a story about the App. They approved it and approved of it.
Apple isn’t a singular entity, it is made up of lots of people. I’d find it unlikely the people approving apps are the same as those who pick the apps to showcase. And neither of those groups are likely involved with making up the rules.
So because Apple is inconsistent internally developers should have to deal with those consequences?
What's really nuts is if this was a company like Adobe instead of a small independent developer we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
That's the crux of the issue here, not to what degree this app may or may not be promoting drugs (give me a frigging break).
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#613Considering how hostile Apple seems to be to the creators that make their platform worth using, I'm consistently surprised that people keep developing for it/investing in it. At least Microsoft is apathetic all the way through: don't expect any help, but as far as I know you won't get shot out of the blue. To me, Apple's whole shtick these last few years reads as if they're just saying "We don't want you to develop o…
It's one reason the Mac App Store is a pale shadow of the iOS app store.
Inconsistency in sand boxing, especially with Apple apps distributed via the app store vs. non-Apple apps.
So much promise utterly wasted. What really is annoying is that it's been bad for so long without any seeming care from Apple in improving things. I'll use the app store for free or small dollar apps, but anything over $20 if I can buy it outside the App store I absolutely do even though it's more of a hassle.
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> Amphetamine on the other hand has only one very well defined use case. Are you referring to the widespread use of it as an ADHD medication for children all throughout the nation?
Or perhaps to its widespread use as a stimulant for narcolepsy sufferers - which is clearly what the app's name is alluding to. It's like banning an app called fertilizer because fertilizer can be used to make bombs.
>It's like banning an app called fertilizer because fertilizer can be used to make bombs.
Great and extremely apt analogy!
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Yes, but it is not the norm. And physical retail stores can justify it to some extent because storage / display space is actually limited and obviously they would like to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable. (This is why FMCG - fast moving consumer goods - are so heavily advertised. Brand awareness helps their sales, and thus shops are more ready to stock it.) Apple has no rea…
> Yes, but it is not the norm. It very much is the norm [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee
Just because something is a popular business practice in the US doesn't make it a norm around the world too. And just because it found acceptance in one geography or some industry doesn't mean we have to accept the same it in another. A physical retail outlet is not the same as an online one, especially one that only sells digital products (software).
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The only bright line rule in the provision is that an app should not facilitate the trade in controlled substances, and it doesn't.
FTA: Apple has accused Amphetamine of violating the following guideline: 1.4.3 Apps that encourage consumption of tobacco and vape products, illegal drugs, or excessive amounts of alcohol are not permitted on the App Store. Apps that encourage minors to consume any of these substances will be rejected. Facilitating the sale of marijuana, tobacco, or controlled substances (except for licensed pharmacies) isn’t allowed…
No, it looks like you don't understand what "bright line rule" means.
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#617Sigh, this is disappointing. I’ve been using Amphetamine for years and it’s quite literally one of a handful of utility apps on the App Store that isn’t a scam or neutered by the policies of the store. Apple was right to recognize it it in the past, and they are wrong today in their reinterpretation of the guidelines. FWIW, I do app review policy for iSH, which went though a similar situation recently ( https://news.…
I hope the author see's your comment but he may not even be aware of this post on Hacker News. His twitter is in the original article - it would be worth a quick tweet to him too as I to use and am a fan of Amphetamine and would hate to see it go, or the author have to expend energy fixing something that isn't broken vs. spending his time on work that would bring actual value :/
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#618Wait until Apple realizes that "Final Cut Pro" seems to promote irreversible self harm for profit.
Or glorifies professional cocaine users :p
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Do you expect to see a box on a shelf of any retail store labeled, “Amphetamine” with a colorful picture of drugs? It’s entirely reasonable for the retail store to tell the vendor to rename the product or else it will be removed from the shelf.
Tell that to Cocaine Energy Drink. https://www.caffeineinformer.com/cocaine-energy-drink-is-bac...
Or Sweetwater 420, which is neither sweet, water, nor 420.
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> something unpublished in the late 90s Why should anyone care about this? I’m still confused.
I'm not here to help you determine whether you should care or not. That's entirely up to you. For some unknown reason you seem to care, and I certainly can't figure out why from the replies so far. As best as I can guess from the evidence available, you're looking for some vector to "No, you're wrong!" disprove some aspect of my personal view of this. This will, of course, go nowhere. I didn't submit my personal view…
>I'm not here to help you determine whether you should care or not.
Other than attention seeking what was the point of your original post? It certainly wasn't for dialog since you can't have a dialog unless you are willing to put all the points of discussion on the table.
People are rightly puzzled by your posting because this site is about dialog - not one direction orations. That you are attempting to act "above the fray" is even more amazing.