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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by OJFord »

monokh wrote: post #413
OJFord wrote: post #407

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Do you? I've never tried to watch any that have required it. Maybe there's Red-only content that isn't advertised/recommended to non-subscribers?

Content with a certain age threshold triggers login. The last time I looked at this, embedding these videos was still possible without logging in. So there are definitely ways in accessing the content without authentication.

Hm. If embedding works maybe my ad-blocking is sufficient; or I just haven't come across any that require it. I mostly just watch woodworkers/machinists/electronics/etc. Sort of conceivable it could be age restricted but would also be surprising.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by pabs3 »

leafmeal wrote: post #135
dastx wrote: post #126

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My experience has been that Github doesn't ever purge commits from the history. Even when you rewrite the history, all the dangling commits are still there and can be access. I've yet to find a way to force Github to do a gc so such commits are removed. Without Github running a GC on the repo, the commits will not be removed.

You can contact their support to do it for you, for example in the case of pushed secrets.

Pushed secrets in public repos are automatically archived by third parties so removing commits containing them would not be enough to prevent their use, just rotating the secrets is the way to go here.

https://twitter.com/andrzejdyjak/status/1324360905237372929 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25013756

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by naniwaduni »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #493
TechBro8615 wrote: post #439

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On the contrary, they’re doing a lot, including establishing a $1M legal defense fund for developers and a technical team to review the validity of anti-circumvention DMCA notices. It seems like they’re doing a lot more than just paying lip service to EFF / developer freedom, and they should be commended for it.

They’re correcting a wrong because their reputation took a big hit in the dev community. Now there’s big talk of the dangers of not self-hosting your repo and the monoculture of using GitHub. Although it probably has good intent, this is largely PR.

We should still incentivize correcting wrongs over letting them stand.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by fuzxi »

woofie11 wrote: post #608
DannyB2 wrote: post #524

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> Do they [YouTube/Google] even care about youtube-dl? A downloaded video doesn't generate ad revenue.

Yes it does. I go to the page (ad), copy the URL, and youtube-dl. More critically, Youtube relies on network effects and people using it. Part of the reason we share family videos, educational content, and other things is so it's, well, shared. For me, the reasons to use Youtube-dl are: 1) People in bandwidth-constrained settings. If I post my videos, and colleagues in some countries can't watch them, I'm going elsew…

>I go to the page (ad), copy the URL, and youtube-dl.

Youtube-dl has an integrated search function, so you actually don't have to open the video in a browser at all.

That's secondary to the rest of your comment, but I thought it was worth noting.

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Post by rhizome »

verall wrote: post #577
_23sd wrote: post #561

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Youtube has to listen to the RIAA's demands because music and music videos are a huge portion of their traffic. The music industry could decide to move all that to Spotify if they chose.

Yea ha ha. They took that poison pill already, I really, really doubt they ever new pop music stops being part of youtube in the future, the audience is too large. It would be like them taking music off of the radio because people could record it on reel-to-reels. They might stomp around a bit and try to use the law to get what they want, but when push comes to shove the big labels will keep their music on youtube.

The RIAA/NARM/etc. needs YouTube WAY more than vice-versa.

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Post by fuzxi »

OJFord wrote: post #407
jtbayly wrote: post #404

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You already have to sign in to view some videos, don’t you? Does YT-dL not have a way to handle those right now?

Do you? I've never tried to watch any that have required it. Maybe there's Red-only content that isn't advertised/recommended to non-subscribers?

There's also members-only content on some channels that requires a paid subscription to access.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by infogulch »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #348
hardmath123 wrote: post #267

A gem in the EFF's letter ( https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/11/2020-11-1... ) > To borrow an analogy from literature, travelers come upon a door that has writing in a foreign language. When translated, the writing says "say 'friend' and enter." The travelers say "friend" and the door opens. As with the writing on that door, YouTube presents instructions on accessing video streams to everyone who comes…

For those that haven’t experienced the joy of Tolkien’s writing, this is a reference to the Elvish inscription on the Doors of Durin in The Fellowship of the Ring , that is simultaneously a riddle and literal instructions on entering.

It means both:

Speak, friend, and enter.

Speak "friend" and enter.

Without punctuation it would be a pun in addition to being a riddle and the instructions.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

woofie11 wrote: post #608
DannyB2 wrote: post #524

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> Do they [YouTube/Google] even care about youtube-dl? A downloaded video doesn't generate ad revenue.

Yes it does. I go to the page (ad), copy the URL, and youtube-dl. More critically, Youtube relies on network effects and people using it. Part of the reason we share family videos, educational content, and other things is so it's, well, shared. For me, the reasons to use Youtube-dl are: 1) People in bandwidth-constrained settings. If I post my videos, and colleagues in some countries can't watch them, I'm going elsew…

Perhaps more importantly, the number of people using youtube-dl because it allows you to watch videos without ads almost certainly pales in comparison to the number of people just using adblockers. Youtube-dl makes you wait.

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Post by pyuser583 »

justinclift wrote: post #483
xigency wrote: post #447

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> The only workaround is to login with a browser and copy the cookies from it to youtube-dl. That's really easy to do with postman.

"Postman" seems like a pretty generic name. Looking quickly online, maybe you're meaning this one? https://www.postman.com

Funny. I initially read that as “The Postman” - kind of like “The Batman.”

And your response is regarding whether it should be referred to in the definite article.

Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored

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Post by trashburger »

DannyB2 wrote: post #524
thewakalix wrote: post #465

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Youtube wasn't behind the DMCA takedown, though. Do they even care about youtube-dl?

> Do they [YouTube/Google] even care about youtube-dl? A downloaded video doesn't generate ad revenue.

How many people downloaded Shake It Off with youtube-dl vs. the people who watched it from the official YouTube app or stock Google Chrome? youtube-dl does not nearly threaten their revenue in any tangible way.
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