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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by oftenwrong »

hamburglar wrote: post #280
swozey wrote: post #14

These used to excite me because I've desperately needed 32gb and faster procs and used to upgrade every 2-3 years but now I just yawn at MBP releases. I'm so unexcited by everything about this form factor other than the fact that it has OSX. I'm guessing I'll be on my 2016 until I finally bite the bullet and quit using OSX if they don't make a more compelling package to spend my $3k on in the next few years. I don't…

"I don't want thinner" is really what apple needs to hear. Thinner means you take away my ports so I have to carry dongles. Yes, I'd actually love to have at least one old-fashioned USB2 port. I know, I'm insane, but USB2 devices didn't exactly disappear just because USB-C is great. I still have a lot of them. Thinner means you take away magsafe, which is one of those great "gosh, apple is so clever" features that's…

>and I hit ESC 1000 times a day because I'm a vim user

Do yourself a favour:

https://vim.fandom.com/wiki/Map_caps_lock_to_escape_in_macOS

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Post by biztos »

scarface74 wrote: post #603
biztos wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it’s any consolation (probably the opposite) my 2017 MBP, without Touch Bar, has gotten about 2h battery when running a now-typical corporate “pro” stack (docker, slack, Outlook, etc) sind day one. If only running UNIx stuff plus maybe a browser I can push it to 6. Every time I get out my 2013 MBP (not for the day job) I remember what a computer could be.

Slack and Outlook - I either use the web versions or just use my phone. They are both cross platform battery killers. Docker - I don’t use it, but if it’s anything like the VMs I use to run, it also kill batteries. I’m better off provisioning all of that on our DEV AWS Account and just connecting via my phone’s hotspot if I don’t have a reliable network connection and running very few things locally.

I recently discovered the web Slack and am trying to use it more. Seems to help, which ought to be a huge embarrassment to $WORK or whatever they call it.

I used to use Outlook Web and might go back. The native client is a nightmare but does some useful things the web one doesn’t.

Docker has been a huge boon to my dev efforts, usually much lighter weight than an old school VM, so I’m no hater but if I had to work on battery more often I’d probably do the same thing, spend a few bucks on AWS and only work online but with better battery life.

All that still won’t get me more than 6h though.... :-(

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Post by wayneftw »

FabHK wrote: post #410
kevin_b_er wrote: post #386

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Apple's mantra is "form over function".

It most definitely did not use to be.

Apple's motto has always been "form/fashion/culture over function" and you can see that in many instances throughout their past.

Aside what was mentioned in your other replies, I think the biggest piece of evidence is the fact that they stuck with their one-button mouse for such a long time even after multi-button mice became a very common third-party hardware purchase alongside a new Mac.

Another commenter mentioned a famous Steve Jobs quote where he said something along the lines of "the form is the function" but I'm absolutely positive that's part of an overall sales-pitch and not a description of reality.

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Post by devy »

eMSF wrote: post #572
devy wrote: post #208

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> The Win10 license is kept in the UEFI so you can reinstall from a Win10 ISO at any time and it will activate correctly. Not if Windows 10 detected that you have "major" hardware changes. In which case, your new installation won't be activated (granted, Microsoft doesn't enforce activation on). You may need to extract the license key from UEFI and type it in manually to get activation to work. It's a hassle.

I got bit by these "major" hardware changes on a computer I'd passed on to my relatives. For whatever reason I had had the onboard Ethernet adapter disabled in BIOS when I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and enabling it prevented Windows from activating at all. (FWIW, it was not a laptop.) Unlike in the past, when all you had to do was call in and recite your license key, these days their policy is to accept nothing e…

Yeah, the exact definition of "major" hardware change is kept as a secret by Microsoft so that it's not easy to defeat that activation mechanism for pirates.

The newer version (version 1511 and above) of Windows 10's digital licenses are essential a private key (as in asymmetric cryptography, called digital entitlement[1], stored in UEFI), as opposed to the a 25-character product key we used before. If for whatever reason the activation program cannot find that key, it won't be activated.

[1]: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12440/windows-10-ac...

> which in my case was from almost 10 years prior. Luckily enough, I had it archived.

If you bought your Windows license online with a Gmail address, Google has you covered. https://myaccount.google.com/purchases

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Post by awinder »

dcosson wrote: post #485
burtonator wrote: post #450

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> Loss of MagSafe (this one still hurts). I will NEVER forgive them for this. Jobs was RIGHT when he said this was a major innovation over everyone else. Now Apple is either saying he was wrong or THEY are wrong. They're not BOTH right. My 2015 is the last MBP I will ever buy and it's aging fast... I think it's hackingtosh from here on out. I primarily use Ubuntu but I have to have a Mac as our app runs cross platfor…

I guess I'm the only one that thinks USB-C is actually better? The biggest win is that now I can use a single dongle for power, displayport to my monitor, and connection to a USB hub. So if I take my laptop home or into a meeting room, when I get back to my desk it's just a single thing to plug in now instead of 3+ separate cables. And since this stuff is all standardized now and there's no longer anything Apple prop…

  I do miss the external LED that 
  showed whether you were 
  connected to power or not and 
  whether it was fully charged
This reminds me of the battery button that displayed a range of leds to show charge percentage when closed.

Seems like Apple could have kept MagSafe and added the usb-c ports w/ option to charge through usb-c or MagSafe. it probably wouldn’t have been a very Apple-like thing to do and then you don’t have nice clean symmetric ports, but that little cable definitely saved lots of repair dollars over the years for me

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Post by apl002 »

gilbetron wrote: post #74

After 8 years of macbooks, after using the 2018 model, I switched to a Dell Precision 5530 running Ubuntu 18.04 and it is awesome. The hardware is great, and having Unix under it all was the only real reason I liked Macs (used to be hardware, too). Granted, I don't need Adobe stuff, or anything else that doesn't run or have an alternative on Ubuntu (although it is dual-booted with Win10, but I've never used it, just…

i refuse to let go of my 2015 model because i can't stand the new ones. Not sure what I am going to do when it stops receiving new OS upgrades

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Post by kpU8efre7r »

rarecoil wrote: post #334
mmartinson wrote: post #90

I'm currently using the last, best 2015 macbook, and having tried a newer model as a work computer for a short while previously, am dreading the day I need to think about replacing it. How about this apple. "macbook util". The pro line can keep the thin delicate stuff. Give me the 2015 case, screen, keyboard, and magsafe, with some new internals and a usb-c. I'd happily hand over my money.

Wasn't that kind of the point of the "Pro" line? I mean, if you just wanted a kinda cool laptop, you'd buy a MacBook or MacBook Air. It's now the MacBook Prosumer, and there is no pro option. Hacker News has been whinging about this Apple dilemma for years. I'm sorry to say that I just don't think there will ever be the golden age of MacBooks again. The "Pro" ideas coming from Cupertino are gimmicky at best for devel…

That's exactly it. That on top of the bling factor. Nobody buys MacBooks, all I see are MacBook Pros. Because of this Apple had to start catering the to consumers who care more about thinness and bling rather than utility. The pro device became a device for everyone.

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Post by ClassyJacket »

chasedehan wrote: post #427

I continue to be amazed by releases on Macs about how "powerful" they are. I use a Dell XPS running Ubuntu with 12 cores and 32GB of ram with a 1050 in a 15 inch. It is a really amazing platform, doesn't have these keyboard or screen issues, and cost less than a MacBook Pro.

Can you link to the 12 core version? I wasn't aware of any laptop with 12 cores, and I can't find a reference to more than 6 on the Dell site.
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