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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Johnny555 »

csomar wrote: post #347
gkya wrote: post #314

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Maybe you can afford that, but many can't.

I really dislike this argument. If you are not doing any serious work, then yes, Apple products are a luxury. If you are doing serious work, then you can afford Apple products easily. Let's say you spend $10k on your 2-year updated hardware. That comes at roughly $14/day. That's about how much I pay for coffee daily (cafes + Nespresso capsules) Edit: And that doesn't include the re-selling price. I do give my old har…

It's only $14/day if you work 365 days a year. If you work a more typical 253 days/year, then it's $20/hour which could be half an hour of the developer's hourly rate.

Does that $10K hardware save you 30 minutes/day over over what you'd see with $3000 worth of hardware (or keeping your $10000 hardware for another year)?

For some, the answer is clearly yes, but for others, maybe not.

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Post by omg_ketchup »

chrisper wrote: post #608
johndoe4589 wrote: post #607

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Let's not mince words. Ubuntu and linux OS'es in general are TRASH as far as user experience is concerned. Lately I even tried elementaryOS, and it's worse than Ubuntu. They keep saying how it's not a copy of OS X, and it evidently isn't as far as user experience is concerned, but on top of that they're obviously inspired by a design that's now completely outdated. At least Ubuntu is looking ahead and thinking of tou…

Maybe it is the attitude that makes it "TRASH." It seems you have only tried Unity and elementaryOS? Right now I use Cinnamon, which is similar enough to Windows to not be "TRASH" imho. Also here is a Linux joke for you: If you don't like certain things, just fork it and do your own thing.

Cinnamon is good. Until you try to install a modern nvidia driver. At least, that was the case 6 months ago.

Dual monitors should be plug & play. I shouldn't have to add a new repository to apt-get, I shouldn't have to choose between 15 Nouveau drivers and 15 potentially system-breaking nvidia drivers. It should "just work".

Dual monitors, and just display output in general... this is 2017, this is very basic, expected functionality. It doesn't matter how complicated it is to implement - the user doesn't give a shit, they just want two monitors.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by ansible »

e12e wrote: post #565
ansible wrote: post #507

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Some of us have been using vi/vim since before it was even possible to remap keys on our computing devices...

That is impressive. Since before xmodmap on a device that didn't either have ctrl-key positioned so that "^]" was easier, or had the esc key closer to home row?

I've used various serial terminals, including, IIRC, the ADM-3A, which had ESC next to the 'q' key.

I had never gotten in the habit of using "^]". And I, like some others, do like my caps-lock right where it is these days, because I use it a lot.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by [deleted] »

johndoe4589 wrote: post #607
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Let's not mince words. Ubuntu and linux OS'es in general are TRASH as far as user experience is concerned. Lately I even tried elementaryOS, and it's worse than Ubuntu. They keep saying how it's not a copy of OS X, and it evidently isn't as far as user experience is concerned, but on top of that they're obviously inspired by a design that's now completely outdated. At least Ubuntu is looking ahead and thinking of tou…

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Post by careersuicide »

r00fus wrote: post #335
issa wrote: post #318

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My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

BetterTouchTool / BetterSnapTool

I think I paid $1.99 for this 5 or so years ago. Hands down the best $1.99 I've ever spent.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by issa »

notduncansmith wrote: post #357
issa wrote: post #318

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My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

I use Spectacle for this, simplest thing I've found so far: https://www.spectacleapp.com

Spectacle is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you!

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Post by atemerev »

mozumder wrote: post #491
atemerev wrote: post #224

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Yes -- anything related to data science. Or, like in my case, algorithmic trading. I used to keep AWS GPU nodes for that, but those are expensive, and it is infinitely more convenient to keep your data close to your workspace, instead of constantly uploading/downloading work batches.

A better option is to just have your own server at your house on a static IP address that you connect to via your laptop. That way you can have as much space as you want and it's always available to you.

I used to do that. Then I realized I just can attach a nice display and a keyboard to the "server" and make things even more convenient.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by willtim »

johndoe4589 wrote: post #607
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Let's not mince words. Ubuntu and linux OS'es in general are TRASH as far as user experience is concerned. Lately I even tried elementaryOS, and it's worse than Ubuntu. They keep saying how it's not a copy of OS X, and it evidently isn't as far as user experience is concerned, but on top of that they're obviously inspired by a design that's now completely outdated. At least Ubuntu is looking ahead and thinking of tou…

Free software offers a spectrum of quality and innovation; and you've picked the worst of it.

I use a desktop (i3), package manager (nix), editor (Emacs), programming language (GHC Haskell), file system (ZFS), bidirectional sync (unison) and security​ (gnupg) that are collectively far more innovative, powerful and stable than anything Apple have ever produced.

Of course, if you are specifically looking for consumer tech, ease of use and support, then open source probably isn't for you.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by MaulingMonkey »

yokohummer7 wrote: post #412
jrimbault wrote: post #269

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But why is it that the PowerShell terminal emulator is (graphically) even worse than a tty ? I've worked on ttys more agreeable on the eyes than Windows terminal emulators. Windows is supposed to have better font support than Linux. Also, if someone here has an answer: Why in the design of Windows aren't programs installed or symlinked in the PATH by default? I guess that was a design choice somewhere along the histo…

> Why in the design of Windows aren't programs installed or symlinked in the PATH by default? I guess that was a design choice somewhere along the history of Windows/DOS. Is there a reason? Windows' way of program executable placement is using the holy Registry. It's called 'Application Registration'[1] and was introduced to reduce the needs to modify the system-wide PATH variable. (They thought it was a bad idea to…

> Not only that, but also PATH had a length limitation of 128 characters. You can find more details in the Raymond Chen's blog, as useful as always.[2]

I should note there are still length limits - in practice you'll run into issues with as few as 2047 characters:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/830473/command-prom...

Debugging this is really annoying, as one of my coworkers found out when one too many applications decided to add multiple paths to PATH (for example, nVidia CodeWorks has added no less than 8 subdirectories of C:\NVPACK\ to PATH to support Android development - for gradle, ant, jdk, ndk, and the android SDK's support, build-tools, platform-tools, and regular tools.)

Said coworker ended up spending some time using directory junctions to shorten the paths in PATH to the point where his dev environment was useful again.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by astrodust »

eropple wrote: post #439
jharger wrote: post #415

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Why not use Metal?

I can't envision a situation where I'd want to run compute tasks using an Apple-only framework.

Depends on your computational problem. For image, video or audio processing where the Apple SDK is superior to most others it might be the best deal, for others maybe not.
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