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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#615

That sound you hear is every legacy hosting company firing up its marketing machine

I've always wondered why people dismiss dedicated hosting without a second thought. It's actually cheaper than AWS if you factor in all of the performance you get.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People were joking about this but it turns out to be true: they host the status icons on their service: https://twitter.com/awscloud/status/836656664635846656

Due to HN's flaky Cloudflare 503 Bad Gateway error, I noticed that Cloudflare is also being affected by S3 being down in a similar but subtle way. See their status page's broken logo on the upper left hand corner.[1] It was actually directly linking to a S3 URL: https://s3.amazonaws.com/statuspage-production/pages-transac... [1]: https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/

Was HN affected by Cloudbleed?

I would rather access HN without Cloudflare as man-in-the-middle, especially over HTTPS.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#617

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Disclaimer: I work for AWS.) The dashboard is not changing color due to the S3 issue. We're updating the banner in place of that. Edit: Update at 11:35 AM PST: We have now repaired the ability to update the service health dashboard. The service updates are below. We continue to experience high error rates with S3 in US-EAST-1, which is impacting various AWS services. We are working hard at repairing S3, believe we u…

Could you go more in depth? What does S3 have anything to do with it?

I think the most reasonable guess is that they have some backend system that continously pushes some status json/xml file to an S3 bucket.

Then there's the frontend, that apparently periodically reads this file from S3 and caches the results.

I guess the comment they added on the top after two hours of being in the dark was likely manually added to the web frontend.

Obviously all of this would be hilariously badly designed if it was made this way. Still...

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's unbelievable that the status page is still showing green checkmarks, almost what, 2 hours into the outage? edit: oh, it is actually because of the outage! So if they can't get a fresh read on the service status from s3, they just optimistically assume it's green... even though the service failing to provide said read... is one of the services they're optimistically showing as green XD

Hey can't change it due to the S3 issue. See their twitter post: https://twitter.com/awscloud/status/836656664635846656

Smells BS. As pointed out in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13757284, text should have reflected the real situation. So the icons are either not the only problem or just an excuse.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#620

Sysadmin: I can forgive outages, but falsely reporting 'up' when you're obviously down is a heinous transgression. Somewhere a sysadmin is having to explain to a mildly technical manager that AWS services are down and affecting business critical services. That manager will be chewing out the tech because the status site shows everything is green. Dishonest metrics are worse than bad metrics for this exact reason. Any…

Thank you for the insight. Could you and/or any sysadmin on here elaborate on what a "nail in the coffin" situation might look like? For example, is this current outage with inaccurate status updates enough to seriously consider migrating to another CDN provider? If so, which one would you migrate to?
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