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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by cookiecaper »

wpietri wrote: post #477
foota wrote: post #465

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What's wrong with hipchat?

Having recently switched from a workplace that used Slack to one that uses Hipchat, my first answer is "everything". It's less reliable, and reliability is my number one desire in a communications tool. And there are just so many little UI and UX details that Slack gets right that it's a pleasure to use, whereas Hipchat is generally an irritation and a disappointment for me. I guess one way to explain it is that Hipc…

This is actually a great description of Trello v. JIRA, as well. Trello may not have the burndown charts, but what it does have is dead-simple list management, and it turns out that's what's most effective for managing tasks.

JIRA's BDUF approach to ticketing/bug tracking pleases middle managers whose job is to spend all day clicking around arcane interfaces and finding a way to generate a report that shows their team is highly productive, but it's painful for actual doers to get in there and move stuff around, which means it rarely gets done, which means that the tracking is not very reliable, which means that the value of the bug tracker is dubious. The most important feature any bug tracker can have is that it's low-friction enough that most people will actually use it.

JIRA has tried various things to make this less onerous, including GreenHopper/swimlanes, an attempt to remake JIRA into a Trello-like drag-and-drop interface, but it just never seems to click the same way. For example, today, when I tried to move a ticket in JIRA from the "New" swimlane to the "Done" swimlane, I got a "WORKFLOW EXCEPTION".

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by vacri »

komali2 wrote: post #423
briandear wrote: post #421

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Congrats! However, I'm still pouring out a little wine on the ground for my fallen homies who died a slow death from being Jira'd and Bitbucketed and Confluenced to the point that their will to live was crushed. Being the anti-Jira is what made Trello great. If feels like Luke Skywalker just got bought by the Dark Side while claiming that nothing will change -- I'm still with the rebels.

I feel like I'm the only one that likes Jira more than Trello. I started on Trello, then moved to a company that uses Jira, and couldn't be happier. It's just so functional . Why does everyone hate on it?

I don't mind Jira, but I do find it s.l.o.w, same with Confluence.

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Post by krallja »

xiaoma wrote: post #543

Looks like too many customers decided they JUST MIGHT HAVE TO GO OVER TO THE AUSTRALIANS! So many that "the Australians" bought the team. This is poetic and this is why I'm glad blogs often stick around. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2009/07/20/fruity-treats-cust...

FogBugz is still wholly owned and operated by Fog Creek Software.

Joel is the CEO of Stack Overflow, and does not work for Trello (nor Atlassian).

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Post by krallja »

antoniuschan99 wrote: post #122

Trello is one of the best SaaS I've used. Atlassian used to be loved before prior to its IPO. I'm not too happy with Atlassian acquiring Trello. How much of Fog Creek will still be part of Trello?

Trello was spun off as its own company in 2014. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2014/07/24/trello-inc/

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Post by emddudley »

WorldMaker wrote: post #184
rrdharan wrote: post #139

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I don't think anyone other than Facebook/Microsoft/Apple/Google can afford Slack.

...and Microsoft tried, was spurned, and built Teams and is pushing Teams and Skype to attack Slack where it lives.

Last year Microsoft also released Planner, a Trello clone.

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Post by golfer »

tomasduda wrote: post #512
inglor wrote: post #432

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I think WhatsApp and Waze are both pretty good examples of high profile acquisitions that played out this way. I also feel like (and I realize many disagree) that YouTube largely kept its "feel" and didn't turn into Google Videos 2.0. Of course there are plenty of examples of exactly what you describe. I feel the same way about Java, Hudson (lol) and plenty of other acquisitions.

Windows Phone version of Waze got abandoned after Google's acquisition, so it isn't a good example.

Honest question: if you ran a software company, would you devote any resources to a Windows phone version? If yes, then why?

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Post by moonman272 »

mhp wrote: post #366
deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

The Trellists made Trello. And the Trellists are going to keep working on Trello at Atlassian. Atlassian understands that Trello is unique and beloved and they definitely do not want to mess that up. Read this article that Jordan Novet wrote. I know seeing is believing and you will have to wait and see, but I agree with everything Jay Simons says in this interview. "During the interview, Simons took time to assure me…

This is the same thing that is said with every acquisition. It's basically boilerplate at this point. A better vector is how the parent product is doing, and currently, Jira is too bloated and swiss army knife in approach that it can't innovate or do anything well anymore. This bodes poorly for Trello and comes off as a play to funnel their users into Jira after they rip the basic superficial look and functionality into Jira as an update to its agile board, and kill the standalone product.

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Post by ygmelnikova »

hoodoof wrote: post #488
deepuj wrote: post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

What about celebrating this as a success? All these negative comments and hand wringing about Trello being ruined sounds like whining entitlement. Atlassian is a fabulously successful independently run company that you should be happy bought Trello. For goodness sake all you haters in this thread make it sound like Trello was acquired by Trump Corporation or The Empire or something.

"make it sound like Trello was acquired by Trump Corporation or The Empire"

Who's the hater now?

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Post by djsumdog »

meerita wrote: post #475
inglor wrote: post #432

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I think WhatsApp and Waze are both pretty good examples of high profile acquisitions that played out this way. I also feel like (and I realize many disagree) that YouTube largely kept its "feel" and didn't turn into Google Videos 2.0. Of course there are plenty of examples of exactly what you describe. I feel the same way about Java, Hudson (lol) and plenty of other acquisitions.

This is a minority sample of companies that survived post acquisition. There is a vast example of companies that doesn't.

I think Atlassian does a good job of not killing off apps it acquires (anyone have examples?). They just rebrand them and smoosh them into their whole suite of stuff they've bought.

Years ago I was talking to a Melbourne dev who said they've made very little (Jira and Confluence I think?) and the rest of it they've just bought and rebranded?

Yahoo likes to kill apps and take devs, like Astrid Tasks.

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