Donald Trump Is Elected President

Post by vkou » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 6:14 PM UTC

mtkd wrote: post #397

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

You can stop incentivising off-shoring of jobs - it's too easy for companies to close down profitable activities and move them abroad to make more profit If you drive out of any city in US or EU you'll see the devastation that has caused

Post by mars4rp » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 6:15 PM UTC

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> at the expense of talking about why she should be president. Hillary couldn't make that argument because it would've drawn more attention to her most damning flaw: The fact that she's a textbook demagogue who was on the wrong side of every progressive issue until she found it politically expedient to "evolve". That's why so many people were so passionate about Sanders. You could go back to C-SPAN videos from 1992 a…

> That's why so many people were so passionate about Sanders. You could go back to CSPAN videos from 1992 and hear him saying the exact same things he said throughout the whole primary season. This was this the exact same case with Ron Paul 4 years ago but it seemed to hardly matter

Post by knz » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 6:16 PM UTC

cmdrfred wrote: post #175

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The working poor voted for Hillary. Trump's support comes from households making $50,00 or greater.

Interesting that right around that number the Obamacare subsidies fade away and are replaced by fines. These are the people getting the short end of the stick in regards to the ACA.

Post by eru » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 6:16 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #306

SolaceQuantum wrote: post #17

Now that the voices of the disenfranchised blue collar workers have been heard, what actually can be done to help them? I'm less worried about the accusations of racism, etc. because it appears to me a majority are voting because their livelihoods have been lost and, despite economics saying globalization will bring new jobs, they aren't showing up in the critical areas where they are needed. So, what policies can be…

It's very interesting to me that so many union households voted Republican. If the Democrats can't rely on organized labor, they really are screwed. Are the Demnocrats a party of elites and the Republicans a populist party now?

Post by euyyn » Wed, Nov 09, 2016, 6:17 PM UTC

lumberjack wrote: post #445

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> In general, making the case against someone else rather than the affirmative case for yourself doesn't work. It's reaction versus action. Well that's blatantly false. That was Trump's entire campaign. All I've heard all year was "Benghazi", "emails" and "crooked", all of which were just rephrasing of the same thing, repeated in perpetuum. It most definitely worked.

Well your problem is you are using the wrong news sources then. I'm not even American and I know at the very least that Trump started out with a very bombastic and completely un-Republican plan that immediately got the people's attention. He promised huge tax cuts, a reformed health care system which is more accessible and tariffs that brought back manufacturing jobs. He promised a lot of other things but I'm mention…