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Genuinely curious as to what you mean by "other primates". What else is there apart from humans and monkeys?
Primates are monkeys. A monkeys isn't necessarily primate.
You have that backwards.
How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat
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" But the truth is folks get much more sugar from supposedly "healthy" items in the form of fruit juice and concentrates. " Or, if you are here in Asia/Singapore, where T2 diabetes is starting to become a big issue- the 3-5 servings of white rice people eat each day is a front page issue on the newspapers.
I tend to be somewhat suspicious of any 'traditional' basic food getting too much bad press. Rice, bread, pasta. White rice tends to get some bad press here as well, along with white bread. Rice itself probably isn't a big deal. It is probably on par with the bread/pasta eaten in the states and Europe as far as health is concerned. There is healthier rice (brown and unpolished) and healthier bread, but we tend to eat…
I agree. I survived a few years of war when food shortage was a real thing. And all we had to eat was white pasta and rice. Occasionally we would get meat/fish cans and similar and a bit of vegetable oil. Sugar was non-existent, you could have bought it on the local market for what is equivalent of $40. So it was there for special occasions only and not your daily poison. And guess what, we were all healthy, people with up to moderate blood sugar issues had no problems at all, back to their healthy selves. I was fit and healthy and feeling great. After that, the food came in and I gained 60 pounds in time span of few years. :)
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Whoosh! Yeah, I managed to miss that.
Yeah, I was trying to be nice :) In all honesty, I was thinking that allwein's post was an example of "Not even wrong" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong )
Water is considered an important part of organic chemistry by everyone, but pedantic chemists. Original poster may have been thinking of cyanide but As is often found in plants and animals and is not man made. Which fits the casual definition.
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#614pure gold comment by Eduard Fischer (in Reader's pick section):
"Last week while traveling in the US, I witnessed a mother place a cola soft drink in front of a young child. The girl began to sip on the drink, the volume of which I estimated to be about twice the size of the girl’s head. I was tempted to make a remark, but remembered that I was in a foreign country where the citizens are famously well armed and roughly half the folks eligible to vote have lost their minds..."
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I really like this response and I do truly believe that cutting out or minimizing sugar is a truly beneficial thing. But when I got to this: > I can't even drink a soda, I spit it out as the most disgusting thing imaginable I had a hard time taking the rest of your comment seriously. I can understand it being too sweet to your now adjusted taste buds, but calling it the most disgusting thing imaginable is just plain…
>>I can't even drink a soda, I spit it out as the most disgusting thing imaginable >I had a hard time taking the rest of your comment seriously. I can understand it being too sweet to your now adjusted taste buds, but calling it the most disgusting thing imaginable is just plain wrong. I said this in another comment, but he's just humblebragging. It's just like someone saying they don't have a TV. He's showing how cu…
>rest of us who enjoy sweet foods
I'll wager there are more on HN, who cut down or take no sugar.
I left it about 10 months back. And recently in a movie hall, I had to take tea with sugar (as their machine could only serve with sugar, very strange!) . So I grudgingly took it. But when I tasted it, it felt yuck! I could barely finish that. So I can say that the GP was not exaggerating greatly, perhaps slightly.
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#617The biggest problem with our health, however, is still Obesity. Just as the fat were mislead by being made to believe that "low fat == healthy" these people will be similarly think "low carb == healthy" and proceed to get obese on low-carb foods. Face it, if you're a healthy weight, by body-fat percentage, you don't have to worry about fructose vs glucose or fat vs carbs. Americans need to put their forks down. We ne…
> We need to start holding the overweight and the fat accountable for their expensive lifestyle choices.
Accountable to whom?
Here's a suggestion: Mind your own business. Don't concern yourself with things that don't concern you.
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Rice, in general, has a pretty high glycemic index. From: http://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycem... Glycemic index of Brown Rice is 68, White Rice is 73, Coca Cola, in comparison, is only 63. But, what makes white rice so really horrible, is not just the glycemic index, but the glycemic load - the net-impact on blood sugar. It's off the charts huge for a typical 150 gram serving of white rice at…
That's because the Coke is 55% fructose. And most of that 500ml is water, with less than 50 grams of sugar in each can. In other words, there's less than 45 grams of glucose in two cans of Coke. Fructose won't spike your blood sugar, but it's bad for other reasons, and so I wouldn't necessarily say that two cans of Coke is better than a cup rice.
Oh, definitely not suggesting Coke is better than rice, but if you are primarily concerned about an insulin reaction from glucose loading in the bloodstream, I am still amazed to discover that eating a bowl of rice will spike more glucose into your blood than drinking two cans of coca cola. It's so counterintuitive that I almost don't believe it.
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This is just defeatism, and falls down here "after completing structured weight-loss programs". The problem here is thinking of weight-loss in the short term. If you are 200kg, and drink 5L of soda every day, you don't stop drinking soda for 12 months, lose weight and then go back to drinking 5L soda a day and except to keep the weight off. You change your diet, and keep it that way. For ever. Thats how weight loss h…
Most people don't succesfully change diet over the long term.
Most people do successfully change their diet over the long term - they just change it too eating too much stuff thats bad for them.